Northern ireland BPS scheme future

greenrover1 · 08-10-2022 11:29PM #1

Ni farmers, we seem to be at stand still with regards to news about how farms will be supported when the current basic payment scheme stops. We will likely have a combination of direct payments with environmental based grants/capital grants. The south are still sticking to the acreage payments while there are rumblings of headage payments with reference years for NI . I find this unlikely as overstocked farms arent particularly environmentally friendly. Farms seem to have upped herd numbers in anticipation of headage payments. All i know is direct payments will be less for more work :)

somofagun · 10-10-2022 09:22AM

Seen an article in last Thursdays farmers Journal where it showed that the farmer in the south gets approx £5000 more than a comparable famer in the north in subsidy payments

We are heading for a rough time here in the north, subsidies are being reduce and yet the input prices are going up and up.

somofagun · 12-10-2022 10:55AM

Not to many northern farmers on here by the looks of it....😕

somofagun · 13-10-2022 11:02PM

I was thinking of the slat mats as well as I have just put up a new cattle house but it looks like a waste of time even applying for it now as it won't be anywhere near 40%.

somofagun · 17-10-2022 11:54PM

Got them from Barrett's as they were cheapest.

Just put them in this evening so the shed will never be clean again

somofagun · 18-10-2022 10:41AM

Thanks FM, I intend to put a crush out along that wall at some stage and have a bit of a lie back area.

The tank is only the width of the slats.

This is the existing cattle house and as you can see its a big upgrade for me.

I was debating on leaving them out for another while but the ground has become to soft now after the rain on Sunday

greenrover1 · 01-11-2022 10:17PM

You won’t hear a dime about headage payments if they’re in the works. People can abuse it if they know. There was talk In the summer about rewarding productivity whatever that means. We need direct subsidy in some form, if it’s in exchange for environmental work or whatever. I run a suckler herd and without direct payments it’s just a total waste of time. Also I simply can’t stand sheep, even though profit margins seem to be higher!

somofagun · 13-12-2022 05:43PM

Lads the whole thing is a real **** show up here at the minute when you see all the schemes that are going on in the south, with fodder payments, BEEPS etc.

They know what's coming in terms of the CAP payments

Up here the farm modernisation scheme is a waste of time as you wont get planning if you want to put up a new cattle house because they can't sort out the ammonia issue. (I blame the chicken men)

Anything that you would want to buy on the Tier 1 has went up that much in price and they didn't bother to reflect this in the pricing structure that its just not worth the hassle.

We haven't a clue what the new payment structure is going to look like so how the hell can you plan for the future of you farm business with what is going on.

No other industry would be run the way it is here.

somofagun · 16-10-2023 03:50PM

The whole thing is a mess up here.

I see a bit more detail on the beef headage payment, the feedlot guys will do well out it.

somofagun · 24-10-2023 02:50PM

It was in the farmers Journal last week.

Had 40 cattle in it over the winter and was alot less work in them with not having to bed them with straw. I would admit my ventilation could be better as I didn't leave enough of a space at the ridge. I think the ventilated tin is a good job but I only have one side vented as I built of the side of silo so have no real cross ventilation.

In the process of buying at the minute and the amount of them with snot hangin out of the noses is mad, it does take them a week or 2 to get going on the slats and they don't look to clean which was a problem I never had in old building. Last years stock did but on good weight so cant really complain.

Poots made a hash of the last grant by not adjusting the rates and then you had the capital build grant which was useless as you couldn't get planning for any new cattle houses because they hadn't the ammonia issue sorted.

They (DUP) championed Brexit knowing full well that farming was going to get a hammering now that the money from Europe was going to have to be replaced by the British exchequer. They are cutting 8% off next years payment which is going to sting and you are going to have to jump through alot more hoops for your payment. Cheers DUP

somofagun · 06-11-2023 12:15PM

Yea got at the weekend there, I assume alot of the men that own bog will be getting a payment now on this. I heard at the weekend that farmers have been put off the land at Baronscourt estate up in Newtownstewart as one of the big supermarkets are going to use use it for carbon off setting. The the ole Duke will get his environmental payments and a nice fat cheque from whoever uses the land for carbon off setting. I noticed that on the Sheep game's last video he done on you tube that the same thing was happening over there in Scotland with the large estates. Farmer was selling all his sheep as he was being put of the ground unexpectedly. Is the way things are going.

somofagun · 15-02-2024 11:39PM

Ploughing on FM, not enough hours in the day is the only problem. Wife giving out about never seeing me between day job, farming and late evening work.

When I seen who had taken the agricultural post a laughed because if you didn't laugh you would cry. Its going to be a **** show of epic proportions with this clown.

I applied for the previous grant but never went ahead with it but could really do with new hedges to cut down on the replacement of fencing in the long run.

Northern ireland BPS scheme future

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