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The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    True. The question is if it is or was in his long term financial interest to pay back the money. One would think that if wanted to rehabilitate his persona in Ireland it is a necessary payment.

    However if he doesn't see his future here, especially back at RTE, then he was always going to keep the money.

    It does make his protestation at committee very hollow though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,934 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Exactly.

    He said if the work wasn't carried out, he would have no issue paying the money back.

    So we can all see that his words aren't to be trusted or believed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,067 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It doesn't put it to bed. You can't wash your dirty laundry in public.

    Rule number one of public reputations, just because something is legal, you can still look like a lying weasel.

    So Tubridy lied to his colleagues and the country about fake pay cuts, and lied to the Oireachtas and the country again about his willingness to repay the money.

    No one acts contrary to their financial interests? Well, Tubridy sure has here. That €150,000 looks like costing him a helluva lot more than that. Maybe he have had a better agent who would have seen that.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,177 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Well that's it, 150k sounds like lot but if it's gone through your financial system then you're gonna feel it giving it back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,897 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Removes the claim that it was, in away, fraudulent too.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Loblox


    Gay Byrne would have returned the money the second it came out, if he had to go to the ATM and print out each and every note.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,177 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    It stinks emmet the trail is just so distorted 😆😆

    It's rtes fault and they are so up to their necks its a drop in the ocean



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,844 ✭✭✭Nermal



    Why, did Kevin Bakhurst explain how invoicing for 'consultancy fees' that you didn't provide isn't an offence under section 10 of the Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) Act, 2001?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    If you think a crime has been committed, report it to the Gardaí.

    But I think you'll find that - fortunately for all of us - being paid money as per a contract isn't a crime.

    Tubridy's contract specifically said that if Renault didn't request him for the appearances, that RTE would pay him the money anyway. It was a really, really stupid contract for RTE to enter into, but it has absolutely nothing to do with Section 10 of the Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) Act, 2001.

    Please, lets just stick to the facts and not make random things up.

    Post edited by Gregor Samsa on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Forbes and NK can conspire to get Tubridy paid through opaque, fraudulent methods (CMS, UK barter account, "consultancy fees") wholly designed to evade auditors and RTE can still have no legal basis to recoup those funds.

    The two aren't mutually exclusive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Neferteena


    Interestingly Angela Scanlon was backfilling for Jayne M, who is covering Chris E's breakfast slot. Another Irish accent, but not Irish centric in her presentation. When she spoke about cheese, & pancakes, it was alloy cheese & pancakes. Not about how back in Ireland cheese is better because the grass is (chemically) greener, or about Auntie Bridie who owns a delightful hobby farm with the nicer tasting goats cheese, because she recites Seamus Heaney poetry to the goats as she milks them with her dainty alabaster hands. Her links were short, sharp & engaging.

    If she needed 3 hours per day, 5 days per week of radio work, she'd have that mid morning gig. However I wouldn't be at all surprised if Vr reduce Tub's airtime & give her an hour or 2 daily. Her brand is impeccable, & she has credentials in TV, fashion & so many other areas.

    There's been mention of Tubs scrubbing up to do podcasts, but that wouldn't work for him, as he is too competitive with guests & needs to talk about himself incessantly, irrespective of the medium.

    If he was to exploit his true talents, he'd create a paid content subscription only platform, where he delivers his daily musings & missives. He can do as many misery interviews as he wants, & waffle ad infinitum. Then he'd know the true quantity of actual fans, who really 'love hearing him back on the radio'. Every listener who contacts the show seems obliged to mention this for some strange reason. I suppose that's because none to very few new listeners are identifying themselves. I'll give Noel a few weeks with that idea. I'm sure his resources are flat out preparing preposterous responses for the upcoming Grant Thornton & other reports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Chocolatier


    Ah now, he's getting nowhere near Desert Island Discs. Lauren Laverne or Kirsty Young could teach him a thing or ten.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭Tork


    Neferteena said: Interestingly Angela Scanlon was backfilling for Jayne M, who is covering Chris E's breakfast slot. Another Irish accent, but not Irish-centric in her presentation. When she spoke about cheese, & pancakes, it was alloy cheese & pancakes. Not about how back in Ireland cheese is better because the grass is (chemically) greener, or about Auntie Bridie who owns a delightful hobby farm with the nicer tasting goats cheese, because she recites Seamus Heaney poetry to the goats as she milks them with her dainty alabaster hands. Her links were short, sharp & engaging.

    This is the sort of thing that you assume all Irish adults know. Even if you're an ordinary Joe Soap, you instinctively tailor your conversations based on who you're talking to. You dial down your Irishisms and you automatically cut out the references you know will fly over the head of the other person. You're not going to start babbling on about the Munster hurling final to a unionist from northern Ireland, or quote lines from Fr. Ted at a Dutch person who has never heard of the series. It isn't rocket science and it's a formula that so many Irish presenters, journalists and other personalities have stuck to when working in the UK. They become people who are good at their job but happen to be Irish, rather than using it as a big loud badge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    I'm not sure that a Tubridy podcast would work out. Podcasting is a bit different to broadcasting in that the listener has to access the podcast. In that respect, the podcaster is podcasting to the listener (almost one to one) rather than at the listener with a typical broadcast (one to many). Vogue Williams knows the business and is quite successful at it. Ironically, so does Lottie Ryan (former NKM client). Tubridy does not.

    The other issue with a Tubridy podcast is the audience. Would it be a large enough audience for a sponsorship or advertising deal? The metrics on podcasting are also a bit more accurate than those on broadcasting. Somehow, Tubridy doesn't seem like the next Joe Rogan.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I don't know, I reckon that's a gig he could revive

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Ryan must know that people are still asking questions about the €150 thousand he's hanging on to and interested in knowing when or if he's going to pay it back, that €150 thousand would be a lot of money to many people, but a man of his wealth it would be like €150. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    The 150k issue came up during the RTÉ appearance at Oireachtas committee yesterday - Tubs has NOT paid it back as yet.

    Mr. Bakhurst said in today’s hearing: “It’s not been paid back… we ask if he’s going to do it, but we’ve had no progress on that.”

    https://goss.ie/featured/rtes-director-general-kevin-bakhurst-reveals-there-is-no-legal-basis-to-recoup-e150000-paid-to-ryan-tubridy-370399



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    With podcasting aren’t the listenership/stream figures available in a real time basis? And pretty much 100% accurate?

    Not sure that’s a route Tubridy would be willing to go down as how embarrassing would it be if he went through he whole rigmarole of setting up and promoting a podcast to then see weekly figures of 786 listeners……. (And that’d just be the opening week when there’d be slightly more interest). Though I’m sure TeamNK would spin it up somehow to inflate the figures like the whole family are sitting around their tables listening in, so “1 download equals 7 listens in the O’Malley household”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is and some people are much quicker at picking up the nuances of other cultures. Tubridy hasn't really operated outside the village of Montrose and is still very much in the "village idiot on tour" phase that most people go through when they move to a new city or country. It will take a while before he adapts to UK, and more specifically, to London culture. However, the syndication aspect of the deal means that he has also to appeal to an Irish audience and a UK audience. The irish audience is familiar with him and the UK audience is not. The problem for Virgin Radio is that the novelty factor is wearing off and the listenership patterns will be starting to emerge over the next few months. The syndication deal made sense on paper and might work for a large single market but the Irish and UK markets are not the same.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Bakhurst surely understands those who benefitted under the free for all set up by Forbes will pay nothing back voluntarily.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    Vogue Williams knows the business and is quite successful at it.

    Which may explain this:

    Partnering with a recognised expert could be a smart move, for all the reasons you correctly outline.

    Adding a podcast to the daily national UK radio show, nearly national Irish Sunday radio show, national Sunday newspaper column and whatever books he might be working on would only leave TV as the major media format he doesn't have a presence on. And he did quit TV on his own terms before the scandal, so maybe that's not of interest to him anyway.

    I suppose the question is, is it good to have many irons in the fire, or bad to spread yourself too thinly? I guess time will tell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭GSF


    He’s not in the theatre and I haven’t heard of Tubridy the movie yet either. But yes a Jack of all trades 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    True, and despite regularly doing his own song and dance routines on the annual Toy Show, he had the good sense to stay well away from the calamitous Toy Show: The Musical. The stage and big screen probably aren't currently in his purview.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    The median net wealth in Ireland is about €193,100. So for your €150 to €150,000 comparison to work, Tubridy would need to have a net wealth of about €193,100,000.

    He was certainly well paid in RTE, and has had a successful career spanning many years, but even with wise investments, I very much doubt he's that wealthy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭speedbird834


    Virgin must have a good idea about how he's doing compared to Eddie Temple-Morris who had the mid morning slot before him based on the number of simultaneous streams - think something like 25% of UK radio listening is online these days so they'll know the direction of travel by now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭GSF


    ETM was getting very low ratings so it’s not going to see a huge dip and any increase % wise can be spun nicely



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭yagan


    He was on around 700.000k when we had 15% unemployment and thousands were emigrating.

    If he couldn't park some of that annual income then what was he spending it on, icing sugar?

    I won't be surprised if he's paying for his exposure at the moment out of his past earnings.

    But as they say in investing past performance is no guarantee of future earnings.



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    How does Bathurst confirming yesterday that there is no legal basis to recoup the money put anything to bed? He's been saying that for ages.

    Whether or not there is some convoluted legal means around, Tubs formally acknowledged (without conditions of an RTE contract) that if he didn't do the work he'd return the 150K.

    He hasn't. If he had done the right thing he'd have clawed back some self respect. Not much, but some.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    No matter how you slice and dice the numbers, €193,100,000 net wealth is ludicrous stuff. Lets stick to the facts.

    And then the thought that someone with that wealth would for some reason be paying their employer to work for them, while living like a student!

    Unhinged isn't a word I'd personally ever use, but I think we can all safely dismiss such notions as fanciful, to say the very least.

    Also, the drug use allegations - which he has denied - are uncalled for.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,177 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




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