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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,538 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    It's a great way to go about things really though isn't it? Push through on your main core principles, get a few big ones over the line that will benefit everyone in future, get voted out and then focus on getting back in again one day .

    I'd be delighted if there was no through traffic in the city centre by August!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,538 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    hopefully not soon enough to get a few big changes over the line



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Well if I was in office, and knew there was a very high chance of being out of work later this year…. Yes I’d push trough as much as I can, regardless of the level of public support!

    I don’t agree it’s a good idea tho, the traffic its shifting will still be on the road, just all condensed onto the remaining few routes, mostly the M50 and towards Ringsend/Irishtown… The amount of CO2 generated from the nightmare traffic situation it would create would negate all benefit! Unfortunately that pillok we call a MOT doesn’t have a scooby!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    Nope, traffic evaporation is the likely result, traffic displacement is mostly imaginary in urban contexts, car drivers only tolerate a certain amount of delay before they cease taking the trip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    This will make Eamon Ryan immensely popular in Dublin, the destruction of Dublin with cars, and more specifically 'culchie cars' is a massive source of annoyance for us Dubs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Personal anecdote, I lived for many years in Dublin 6, born and raised! I work in aviation and by virtue travel to the airport everyday to earn a living. When I lived in Ranelagh and left at 4am for work I’d be across the city in maybe 20/25 mins, quick easy journey. With this plan I’d have to go across Harold’s Cross and Terenure and onto the M50, or towards Ringsend and the east link and port tunnel (presuming you’ll still be able to cross there?!?) the emissions, cost and time that will add up to over the course of a year or even a career is immeasurable! A huge number of the 2/3 journeys cited in that article I’d bet are of similar nature…. People traveling because they need to! There’ll be some evaporation of course but a vast number of the cars crossing the city are doing so out of necessity. True removal of traffic will only happen once there is solutions to the problems this causes.

    And I can’t speak for the rest of Dublin, but that gobsh**e Ryan is far from Popular in his own constituency even…. I’d know, I’m from it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    But in truth you'll complete that journey much quicker by taking the A2 bus directly to the Airport so you'll abandon the car journey and therefor do your part to reduce car congestion. Evapouration on a route like this will likely account for 90% of the reduction at least and the rest will be by trip redistribution. These changes have been modelled by the way, so no point in you contradicting it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    I will in my swift! If I still lived where I used to it would take me almost as long to walk to the bus stop 😂😂 if it even runs 24hrs🤷🏻‍♂️

    From where I currently am, which isn’t far away, I use the M50 and its half hour door to door at 4am, little longer later in the morning. Quick efficient journey all things considered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    There isn't anywhere in Ranelagh that's 20 mins walk from a bus stop but ok cool, you solved your issue by moving, your fastest journey will still likely be by car and the M50 given the hour of travel, so you are unaffected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    I said almost as long Eamon. I’ve actually just googled the A2 bus route tho…. It would take me considerably longer to walk to a stop for that, considering it’s in Athlone…. Was it a typo? I based my time off the Aircoach stop in Donnybrook



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,448 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    There are loads of alternatives to private cars driving through Dublin City Centre

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    Dublin route A2 not Athlone route A2. Dublin A2 hasn't started yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,448 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    In more interesting news, battery storage is already edging out diesel peaker plants in Australia

    It's becoming cheaper to store excess renewable energy than to maintain and operate thermal peaker power plants.

    This will continue and accelerate the decline of fossil fueled electricity generation

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    https://www.newstalk.com/news/ban-on-cars-driving-through-dublin-city-centre-by-august-eamon-ryan-1640188

    A ban on cars and commercial vehicles travelling through Dublin city centre will be in place by August, Eamon Ryan has said.

    The Dublin City Centre Transport Plan will be presented to city councillors tomorrow afternoon and aims to stop motorists driving “through” instead of “to” the capital.

    Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan said the change will radically transform the capital and predicted other cities would follow suit. 

    “They will see a transformation this August when we take the through traffic out of the city centre,” he said. 

    “That’s going to make a huge change in Dublin and we can do the same in each of our cities. 

    “Those cities that don’t want to be part of it, they will fall behind. 

    “They will stay stuck in this car gridlocked, car dependent system.”

    Minister Ryan said the final decision about any ban would rest with local authorities but his Department would be happy to pay if they decided to follow Dublin’s example. 

    “We’ll provide the funding, we’ll provide the policy background but really this is a matter for local communities or local authorities,” he said. 

    “Do you want to go this cleaner, safer [proposal] or stick with the past?” 

    Net zero

    Yesterday, the European Union announced it wanted a 90% emissions reduction across the bloc, prior to reaching net zero by 2050. 

    It is a target Minister Ryan believes is“doable” but challenging. 

    “The only way it would work is if this is not divisive, if this is not politically divisive between rural and urban, rich, poor, young, old,” he said. 

    “It has to be everyone, every place matters, every sector.” 



    Omg!!! M50 is gonna be goosed from August onwards...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    The M50 already operates at it's peak hour capacity so it won't get any busier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    Has one political party/cult done so much damage to its own country.ban this ban that,tax to oblivion and the reduction in speed limits in the name of road safety when really it’s green bs to annoy the motorists even more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Tippman24


    I looked at this last week with the Headline being that the people of Paris voting overwhelmingly in favour of the proposal. However I think that only 7%of the residents of the city voted in total.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,733 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    A ban on cars and commercial vehicles travelling through Dublin city centre will be in place by August, Eamon Ryan has said

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Tippman24


    Meant to say that this is in reply to the comments on Paris increasing the parking fee on SUVs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    Someone who clearly has no idea how the Jervis and ILAC shopping centres are stocked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    What damage is that? I'd rather some annoyed motorist than continuous failure to deliver reliable bus services and safe, usable and convenient cycling infrastructure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,059 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    I think that city centre ban was discussed last September too. I remember a Green councillor on the radio talking about it while I flailed the years growth on the hedges around the place



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,271 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    You mean the buses that are already way oversubscribed at peak times and can't attract the drivers needed to fill all routes?

    I've been cycling in Dublin City all my life and since they implemented the HVG ban many years ago it's been safe to cycle anywhere in the city. Well, as long as you have somewhere secure to lock your bike or you'll be coming back to a bike missing several parts. For me, the level of crime around bikes is more of a blocker than cars stuck in traffic.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Lets hope no td or councillor wants a tradesman to come quickly from one side of the city to the other.

    Post edited by prunudo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,109 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    If those buses could reach their terminus and turn around in a timely maner there would be greater frequency, less cancellations and less overcrowding with the current fleet and current compliment of drivers.

    And no cycling is by no means safe. Plenty of cyclist deaths and injuries since the port tunnel opened. There are hardly any cycle lanes that meet design standards in Dublin, less than 10km infact



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    M50 is goosed as it is. 3pm onward on Friday is the bane of my life.

    I'll try public transport to collect my kid (Raheny -> Rathfarnham and back) on Friday when it's back to school in September (2.30pm pick time). I do suspect however that neither M50 nor public transport will work for me. I've like 2.5 hours max to get over and get back. (Work commitments)

    I'll think of something though hopefully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,814 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Lads, you can all unclench.

    The Council have to vote for this to happen. There is likely to be a legal challenge, which would delay either the vote or the implementation.

    And there is the Local Elections in June, which will likely return a much reduced Green Party representation anyway.

    Eamon Ryan is trying to railroad through as much stuff as he can before he and his party disappear off the Irish scene, but he won't be as successful as he thinks he will be.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    How can anyone believe they can ban commercial vehicles???


    That’s basically the whole city centre shut down.


    How will the food get you the supermarkets for example??


    Sounds like an April fools joke people have swallowed.



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