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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • #30812
    RavenBea17b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭RavenBea17b


    I wonder when (not if) TFG will start espousing if he doesn't win in 2024 it will be due to a steal, that it's faulty etc. How long before TFG starts planting this little ear worm for the cult that worship him.

    My oh my, what a strange time they all live in.



  • #30813
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,729 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727209#Comment_121727209

    Oh he already is...



  • #30814
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,916 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121726537#Comment_121726537

    How will this help Trump? If Trump wins this time he will be ineligible to run the next time around. Do you think he cares who wins after him?



  • #30815
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727408#Comment_121727408

    I think he cares, the Republican establishment cares, and if they lost in 2028 Trump and his VP would refuse to certify and we could potentially seem some Project 2025 related machinations of Trump saying 'well I will stay in power until we can figure out what the hell is going on' if he has a loyal supreme court, loyal lawmakers, a loyal DOJ and loyalists installed at the pentagon, and 25+ Republican states to support him in that endeavor, it would be a nightmare to reverse something so blatantly unconstitutional - but blatant unconsitutionality didn't prevent January 6. If the acting AG or AG for example had been someone with no spine, unlike Rosen, the outcome could have been remarkably different.  “I don't expect you to do that, just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.” Similarly if the Secret Service had been restructured with loyalists, he would have marched with his people on the Capitol.

    I don't take for granted that our constitutional norms are evergreen after everything that happened, requiring constant vigilance for the rest our lives and future generations lives to ensure it doesn't fall to a kleptocracy the way russia has, with president for life over there.



  • #30816
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,916 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727437#Comment_121727437

    The only thing Trump cares about is himself.



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  • #30817
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727456#Comment_121727456

    Yes, and if he can remain a presidential monarch for the rest of his life, I think he'd like a try at it.



  • #30818
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,259 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121726201#Comment_121726201

    Neither Trump nor Biden won in landslides, yeah Trump won by something like 100k voters compared to Biden 45k or so a few years later but absolutely nothing in it. When you look at how small the margin's were on both occasions its quite feasible we could have different winners if the election was maybe a week earlier or later as plenty of voters would have looked at Biden, Clinton and Trump (twice) and went for what they considered was the least worst option.

    The popular vote margin doesn't matter for better or worse, Biden will run up the score but so what if he loses the EC? The most amusing scenario of the night would be Trump losing the EC but winning the popular vote though.

    I find it crazy when I see people make such confident predictions with Trump and Biden, its quite likely to be going to be incredibly close anyone suggesting blowout is just wishcasting, neither of them are popular enough for such a scenario.



  • #30819
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,032 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The only way to deal with MAGA GOP..

    https://twitter.com/RepMcGovern/status/1754660994092069360?s=20


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #30820
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,729 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Trump attempts at scuttling the Border deal looks like it's going to blow up on him and the GOP

    The Border Patrol union have just come out in support of the deal.

    They traditionally have been very vocal Trump supporters.

    Hard to know how they keep saying that it's a terrible deal blah blah blah when the actual people doing the job want it

    Yet again Trump shows they he simply doesn't know how any of this works.

    All of this just makes Biden look better and removes the Border as a stick to beat him with.

    Shades of his Government shutdowns.



  • #30821
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727730#Comment_121727730

    You do see through these incidents, as well as prior ones like the Healthcare reform debacle, a stark demonstration of just how poor a businessman alleged Big Businessman Trump is. No conniving instincts, no deftness of manipulation, just empty braggadocio that thinks shouting and belligerence gets the job done.

    I do wonder now that McConnell has put his cards on the table, and decided the Border Bill is bipartisan enough for his blood, if MAGA will go after his own health problems. They're obsessed with "cognitive decline" and McConnell's has been so public I could see the ghouls among MAGA deciding to round on McConnell with that narrative.



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  • #30822
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,016 ✭✭✭✭briany


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727623#Comment_121727623

    A satisfying retort, I'm sure, but it's obviously not going to make her go, "Damn, I really got owned, there. Guess it's time to start acting like a normal person and not a spiteful trollop."

    She'll just feel more legitimised in her spiel because "they're doing it, too", but that would only be after getting called out on playing the victim.

    Like picking a scab, taking on people like MTG in this way feels good in the moment, but exacerbates the problem as well. But is there a way to deal with their noise without getting in the mud pit?



  • #30823
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,729 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121727823#Comment_121727823

    It shows how messed up his world view is.

    He views everything as a zero sum game - There cannot be a winner if there isn't also a clear and obvious loser so he confronts everything in that incredibly simplistic binary way. When in reality the best way to get the "win" , especially in politics is to let the other guy think they are getting something out of the deal as well , but he is utterly incapable of thinking like that.

    The "win" here would have been to add/remove a few small bits from the deal and then claim that the GOP had forced Biden to deal with the border and that only they had made him take it seriously.

    Then afterwards they could attack him for not doing it fast enough etc.

    By just blocking it and worse by ensuring that everyone knows that they aren't blocking it for any reason other than trying to make Biden look bad, they make themselves look petty and unserious.

    They have basically removed one of the few remaining things they could have hoped to use on the campaign trails - Or at least damaged it significantly.

    Because if the deal doesn't go through , Biden and the Democrats can now blame/deflect it all on the GOP for not approving the bill.

    And if they do decide now to vote for the deal , they just look really weak and disorganised.

    A incredibly dumb move politically , but it's not surprising at all.



  • #30824
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    It is looking like the Border deal negotiated in the Senate will die there. Rather than even having the balls to pass it there and force the house Reps to kill it.

    https://us.cnn.com/2024/02/05/politics/border-deal-senate-vote/index.html


    GOP senators and indeed the entirety of the GOP that isn't MAGA, have now made crystal to the US electorate that Donnie is their King. That despite failing at every ballot other 2016, despite knowing that he is divisive, dangerous and dim!

    That following his whim, is more important than doing what's good for the US, what's good for global security and if nothing else? That once guaranteed GOP vote winner, doing what's bad for Russia! Are all steps too far for the "new" GOP.

    I hope at least that the Dems manage to hammer home the failure of the GOP to take the best chance of a border deal in decades! Because I don't see Trump passing anything. Even when he had both houses, he was a legislative failure.



  • #30825
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,032 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728002#Comment_121728002

    This should be explained with crayons by Biden in the State of the Union speech..

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #30826
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,729 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728036#Comment_121728036

    Oh , they're trying to stop him from getting that opportunity..

    President Biden would be barred from delivering the State of the Union address to Congress until he sends along a budget request and national security strategy, under legislation introduced Monday by Sen. Joni Ernst

    The Send Us Budget Materials & International Tactics In Time (SUBMIT IT) Act would block House and Senate leadership from inviting the president to give the annual address until lawmakers receive those materials.

    “Well, actions speak louder than words, folks, and Biden’s budget is late once again,” Ernst (R-Iowa) said in a statement obtained by The Post. “If the President is going to be allowed the opportunity to address Congress and the entire nation, he should actually have a plan in place.”

    It'll die in the Senate , but it just shows that they have absolutely nothing to offer here , nothing at all.



  • #30827
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,559 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728196#Comment_121728196

    "Send Us Budget Materials & International Tactics In Time (SUBMIT IT) Act"

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  • #30828
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,729 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728257#Comment_121728257

    That one is particularly dumb , but they all do that - Giving their bills these stupid acronyms, it's just stupid.

    It's all just further evidence that none of them are actually serious - It's all just a series of "made for TV" moments.

    I'll give my bill a silly name and I'll bring bill-boards and giant photos (or snowballs!!!) on to the floor of the House/Senate so that I get a 30s slot on the TV news this evening.

    Because that's what matters , not doing the job I was elected to do , no - Getting on TV is what matters.



  • #30829
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Just saw the amzing picture where Trump say he looks like Elvis so if and when he loses the election he can get a gig in Vegas as an Elvis impersonator.



  • #30830
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728985#Comment_121728985

    One comment:

    At least Elvis did his military service.



  • #30831
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121728985#Comment_121728985

    Sure why not he spent 4 years impersonating a president



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  • #30832
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    'Mad Dog' Mattis, worked as an advisor to the UAE before he returned to public service in the Trump admin in 2017. The Pentagon reportedly fought to conceal this from the public. The Post only recently learned of it. Mattis did not include this on any of his ethics disclosures, there was vigorous effort to keep this knowledge from the public.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/02/06/mattis-advised-uae-yemen-war/
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  • #30833
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,032 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1754883119717462337?s=20

    It's about damn time....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #30834
    z80CPU
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Still some semblance of sanity in US politics

    Donald Trump is NOT immune from prosecution because of presidential role

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68026175



  • #30835
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729926#Comment_121729926

    Still gonna drag this up to SCOTUS, who, being captured, will gladly deliberate over it...

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  • #30836
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,394 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729927#Comment_121729927

    More bad news for the ultimate con-man. Hopefully the bad news keeps on rolling. This guy needs to be consigned to the history books ASAP.



  • #30837
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729926#Comment_121729926

    So much winning.



  • #30838
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,729 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729926#Comment_121729926

    And most importantly - It was a unanimous ruling.

    That makes it much much harder for the Supreme Court to over-rule.

    They have no dissent to use as a leverage to over-turn..



  • #30839
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The upcoming Truth Social rant will write itself.

    I'd speculate the word "swamp" being used but I Doubt I'd get odds on something that certain.



  • #30840
    looksee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,686 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I thought I saw somewhere that the Supreme Court is likely to refuse to take it?



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  • #30841
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121729926#Comment_121729926

    Let's see what Chuckle Fúck's response to the consequences of his own actions will be this time

    https://on.ft.com/3w2OaOl

    The US has been swirling around an inflection point for 8yrs now. It's longest dalliance yet with authoritarianism since the highpoint of Norman Rockefeller and other groups such as American Bund.

    In 2020, the centre and the system held. If the GOP had a modicum of testicular fortitude in the Senate? Trump would have been dealt with politically at least, at his 2nd impeachment.

    They punted, claimed that the criminal court is where it should be dealt with. Now that the courts are cleared to pursue criminal actions against the Cheeto coloured lard arse? I fully expect the party of law and order to start railing against the courts, their legitimacy and their "politicisation".

    As I said way back in 2020, if the USA as a democratic state, and as the great experiment in democracy is to mean anything? It must surely be that no man is above the law! That despite wealth buying many a different class of justice, that justice itself, must prevail!



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