Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Great excuses for such a brilliant army. Maybe they're afraid to take them on?

There’s a huge step from all that to claiming as Taytolover did, that Netanyahu ignored warnings so there would be a war.

It’s not that I don’t think Netanyahi would be cynical enough - he may even be capable of it. But it makes no sense for him to have allowed the army to be so unprepared for something he knew was coming. None at all.

That was never something that was going to make the Israeli population think well of him. Anything since that day is him trying desperately to repair (not very successfully) what has been a PR disaster for him.

Still stalking me flattering.

You still claiming no hostages released in 4 months?

Israel will reap what it sows. And deserve it.

Why should the Palestinians leave their own lands??

At the start when Palestinians tried to leave the IDF bombed the border crossing. Then the IDF told them to go south and again bombed them when they got there. It would be great if they were actually allowed to leave with the guarantee of safe return when its all over then that would be great. I don't believe that the Israelis ever worried about Palestinians being safe. Their actions make me think otherwise.

Allow the Palestinians leave? What?

And deny the IDF squaddies their training sessions? Any good sniper will tell you it takes years of practice. Less Palestinians, less practice.

Though, I guess with the Palestinians gone they can loot and pillage as much as they like. Little bit of Palestinian lingerie and a few Shekels is fair reward for all that hard bulldozing.

Sure - they can invite their Settler mates along. Winner winner chicken dinner!

Both Israel and Hamas reject a two state solution. Public opinion before the Hamas invasion was for a two state solution, the invasion changed that.

https://middleeastmonitor.com/20240118-meshaal-hamas-rejects-two-state-solution/

The Israeli war goals are very clear, Hamas must be destroyed. That is absolutely front and centre of what most Israeli's want. For Israel to agree to a ceasefire now with the job half done would only hand victory to Hamas and encourage them to re-arm, re-group, and have another go at Israel in the future.

And if you think you're the one in danger, guess again.

Oh Lordy - there's tapes!

"Basil Suleiman Abu al-Wafa wanted to go out and play with his friends. The 15-year-old from the occupied West Bank city of Jenin was described by his uncle as a simple child who was dedicated to his schoolwork and friends.

Also playing in the streets of Jenin was eight-year-old Adam Samer al-Ghoul.

On November 29, during a seven-day pause in fighting in Gaza, both of them were shot and killed by Israeli forces. Basil was shot in the chest and died in hospital, while Adam was shot in the head. Their killings were captured on video."

Did someone say collateral damage?

"The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on Nov. 18 that “according to a police source, an investigation into [the attack on the festival] also revealed that an IDF helicopter that arrived on the scene from the Ramat David base fired at the terrorists and apparently also hit some of the revelers who were there.”"

It's genocide

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Definitely genocide

"Already before the Holocaust, by February 1940, the expulsion of Poles by Nazi Germany from occupied western Poland also targeted some 20,000 Polish Jews.[46] There was a special institution set up in 1939 to coordinate the expulsion, initially named the Special Staff for the Resettlement of Poles and Jews and eventually to Central Bureau for Resettlement "

Definitely not genocide

"More than 100 days after Hamas triggered the war with its Oct. 7 attack, Israel continues to wage one of the deadliest and most destructive military campaigns in recent history, with the goal of dismantling the militant group that has ruled Gaza since 2007 and returning scores of captives. The war has stoked tensions across the region, threatening to ignite other conflicts.

More than 24,000 Palestinians have been killed, some 85% of the narrow coastal territory’s 2.3 million people have fled their homes, and the United Nations says a quarter of the population is starving."

Government thugs? Don't think so.

These people were supporting the Palestinians - they were Hamas operatives. Anti semites too. Don't they understand the Jews are surrounded by people who would see them dead in a heartbeat by chanting "from the river to the sea. Deserved it and much more besides. Those government security personnel showed severe restraint there - wouldn't want to be accused of being disproportionately heavy now.

Oh, wait... My bad. Apologies.

(They can thank their lucky stars they weren't waving white flags)

People who attend the marches are not responsible for what is said from the podium, nor are they in any position to anticipate what will be said. Also, you often see multiple speakers at these marches, not just one person.....easy to seize on one short clip from a speech and misrepresent what the whole day was about.