Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Hostages? Seems an odd line to take since Trump has previously expressed that he dislikes those that are taken hostage! So they are now basically calling those people losers

I understand, from the media giving Trump a platform to speak to his chosen audience, that he has declined to sign the Illinois ballot loyalty oath promising that he will not advocate the overthrown of the Government, despite having signed the oath on two previous occasions.

Alongside his comments about the US Civil War that a deal could have been negotiated between both sides to avoid it and Lincoln would not have been heard about, it's fairly obvious that he is seeking "atta-boy" calls from his fanbase while trying to keep them from wavering in loyalty to him and returning to the big R Party.

He may be getting desperate about the Insurrectionist tag on his collar, afraid that the judges will say NO to his pleas not to deprive him of getting his name on the ballot papers around the US.

How much does Chris Christie's withdrawal from the GOP nomination race assist Nikki Haley in the % race V Trump? Looking at an Irish TV current affairs show last night, it was suggested that it would help her, especially in her home state.

One item raised by the US pundit on the show [just as it ended] was Trump's recent [negotiation would have prevented the war] mention of the Civil War issue. The pundit said the war is still an issue to citizens of South Carolina and Trump probably used it to offset the support Haley would probably get from her state's fellow citizens.

I had looked at Trump and the Civil War mention online by online media outlets wondering where he was coming from on it. The media outlets were giving him an F on the history knowledge score but maybe there is a canny backroom person in his campaign who knows what matters to voters in some states, despite what some online media would have the public think.

it seems Republican voters in some states are still living in the 19th century in their minds...which must account for the profusion of confederate battle flags at Trump rallies.

*Stollen

Trump excels in telling porkies to the public, it's like X amount of them suffer from Stockholm-syndrome. I'm in Dublin having a natter with a barber over topics as one does and the subject changes to him. She say's her mother, a Dub living in Dublin [neither a US citizen, nor voter] swears by Trump, believes everything he says is truthful.

If he does somehow manage to get the nomination election day will be messy to say the least. The seeds of distrust have been down for years and some MAGA types will be looking for anything they decide themselves to be cheating.

In terms of raw numbers though, I still can’t see him getting elected. While he’s a great motivator for his republican base, he’s also a great motivator for dem voters to get out and ensure he doesn’t win, like 4 years ago.

I hope it doesn’t come to that though, even him being the candidate could do untold damage to the American political system.

The majority of Nikki Haley voters won't give him their "second choice" and vote for Biden instead

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna133821

The [slightly] unamusing thing for the GOP is that Trump got 50% of the caucus vote and that the other 50% failed to vote for him, so a similar act on ballot-filling day in Nov would be reflected in the final tally as forwarded to Congress for certification. The loss of the election wont be down to fraud by the Dems but by GOP vote-suicide [as it were]. Even 30% would be sufficient, non-shows would also be reflected. All the Dems will have to do is rally the troops for ballot-filing day.

Dan Rivers says that Trump has vowed to exact revenge on his political enemies.

But the US Constitution has checks and balances to prevent a president from doing that, doesn't it?

"Trump: the Return?" is on ITV1 tonight at 9.