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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,896 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    A further tease of that hypothetical could be.. what if Seal 6 killed all members of the Senate, thus preventing the president from being convicted.

    It is bonkers stuff.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The hypotheticals get very silly very quickly if you accept the Trump argument.

    A President could simply buy off the requisite number of Senators by giving them millions in Government money to ensure their loyalty. They could arrest them and/or their families for similar purposes.

    The stupidity of this is endless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Raysin


    I was thinking the best case scenario would be Trump choking on a burger in full view of his Mar A Loser sycophants, but even if he died on the spot and autopsied on the spot, they'll still claim he was assassinated. Then they'll claim he never died at all and is fighting the deep state from a cave in Dakota, and then they'll claim he was reincarnated in the body of Billy-Bob Opportunist, who says all the same things and hates the same people. Republican politicians will make no comments dispelling anything, so they hang on to power, and so it will perpetuate infinitely.

    We have precedence in the whole JFK jr nonsense, and there is literally nothing these people won't believe. Nothing. There is decades of nonsense yet to play out, no matter what happens. When it's finally over, the US will be even more of a mess than it is now and certainly won't recover, in my lifetime anyway.

    I wonder if Republicans ever look back at what they unleashed on themselves and the rest of the world when they looked at a malignant narc and said "Yes, this guy looks like a solid bet!". They backed him and still do, and will reap their just rewards for it.

    If there wasn't the potential to destabilise the entire planet, it'd be fun to watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    At what point are you barred from running for president in the US? If you are convicted in a criminal case, even if you don't serve time?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Criminal conviction doesn't bar you from running for or winning the Presidential Election.

    The only thing to legally block you from running for President is the application of the 14th amendment.

    Trump could run for Office from Prison and even take office whilst still in Prison.

    It's happened twice before where candidates ran for President while in Prison

    Eugene Debs in 1920 and Lyndon LaRouche in 1992.

    Debs was a Socialist Union organiser jailed for his "activities" and LaRouche was a far right Conspiracy loon who was jailed for mail-fraud.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,896 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    In addition to the obvious preventions, which as not being of age, not being born in the US, and having served two terms, or being involved in an insurrection

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Fairly sure that more recently Joe Exotic (The Tiger King chap) has also campaigned for presidency from his jail cell. Obviously went nowhere quickly.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I think this massively unfairly categorises Biden. With the IRA, the attempts to cancel student debt, literally joining a picket line with workers, job growth and wage growth in the lowest quartile he has actually been pretty much the perfect old school labour democratic president.

    However, this image of him persists for whatever reason and he doesn't seem capable of shaking it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    As I mentioned yesterday, Trump's lawyer was dismantled in his attempt to link criminal liability with a need for successful impeachment. He was eviscerated by the judges.

    What surely must jump out to the court in their assessment of what Trump's position and entitlement to absolute immunity?

    Are his incoherent legal strategies. Regarding POTUS not being an "Officer" of the US? Well he attempted to get Bill Barr to forestall and defend the E Jean Carrol lawsuit on the basis that POTUS is an officer of the state.

    On the necessity for impeachment before Criminal prosecution? Well many GOP Senator's put in record that criminal court was the place to seek justice, rather than the senate vote. Indeed at his impeachment trial, Trump's team specifically argued that the criminal courts were the appropriate venue and not impeachment.

    A further thing I'd note that undercuts Trump's absolute immunity claim? Is Nixon's resignation and pardon. Were a President entitled to absolute immunity, then surely no pardon was needed🤔

    A POTUS known to have commited criminal acts and at legal jeopardy for it, arranged a deal to resign and be pardoned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,896 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Demented.

    Absolutely and utterly demented.


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Noteworthy too how the Chyron says "Pentagon asset", even though they're talking about the White House & Biden. So they obviously thought this lunacy wouldn't stir enough emotions with Biden alone - oh, but if Swift's a Pentagon asset? That's even deeper state again.

    The biggest thing the GOP - and its various offshoots - fear are voters, because time and again the population support key items GOP oppose than they're comfortable with. They don't know how to appeal to ordinary voters anymore, so all they can do is stir up the base, suppress minorities and the easily put-off (ie, young people) from voting, and gerrymander the shít out of districts.

    When the turnout is high, the GOP loses; when it's low they win out. So this video isn't the least bit surprising. Oh my god a popular artists is telling people to get out and vote? How dreadful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,896 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    🚨new birther conspiracy🚨

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,700 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The place has gone utterly deranged. The fanta fascist is now openly supporting constitutional articles when it suits him and brushing them aside when they don't and his fanbase just lap it up.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    As for who the "legal scholar" is, his Twitter bio contains the line "Author of President Trump's favorite Substack". So you know he's an expert on what he talks about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Always knew there was more to that Taylor Swift so no surprise now to fine out thanks to Fox news that she is a CIA psyops agent



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Obama, Harris and Haley all get the same treatment..

    What is that all these Natural born citizens have in common I wonder that would make Trump call their eligibility into question?????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Donald, Junior and Eric are piling on the pressure to accumulate more and more funds and they seem to have no supervision in doing this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Another non-white candidate that trump says isn't eligible to become president, but remember folks, he isn't a racist. No siree Bob



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Money is the only thing that motivates them - well , aside from petty revenge on anyone they feel has wronged them somehow.

    If they can make money from it they will do it , regardless of whether it's legally or morally acceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    HuffPost reporting that Trump plans to give his own closing argument in the NY Fraud trial on Thursday.

    They better get the handcuffs ready. It's not even a criminal trial, but I'm sure he'll commit some crime while speaking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Those things you mention are all good, and Biden deserves credit for positive steps he has taken, but it's not enough. The radical negativity of Trumpism needs to be cancelled out with something that is radically positive, and Biden is too old and too invested in the old ways of doing things to really make this happen, but he can at least help set the stage.

    Yes, and while it would seem hypocritical, it's not. I mean it is, but their true principle has become so clear that there's no point in listening to their words and becoming exasperated by them. The principle is Trump. That is crystal clear. Everything is just a vehicle around that, and if it's a hindrance, then it's bad. All that can be done is to adhere to the laws, and if they don't like that enough, let it be them who fire the first shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,896 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Obama's medicare bill was radical, and you still have republicans who avail of it, objecting to it.

    America doesn't do radical.. or at least, not radical in a positive way

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I agree he is too old, but he has also been incredibly effective because everyone else in congress is old too..

    He has been much better at producing actual meaningful legislation and impacts than Obama was. The president is limited in power and I just don't believe a truly radical one would actually accomplish that much beyond a lot of executive orders that get overturned when the next guy comes in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,896 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The hypocrisy of the Trump's GOP exposed gloriously


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,162 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I really hope that trumps lawyer in the immunity case got paid in advance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Pretty sure the only lawyers left who are willing to argue on Trump's behalf are those for whom the only payment needed is to stand near to the Great Orange One himself and bask in his glow.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Is he even legally allowed to do that?

    Surely his lawyers have to do that?

    Also - So he's not going to take time to be with his grieving wife following the death of her mother yesterday?

    More important to do something his lawyers are (allegedly) paid for.

    What a guy!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,256 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Melania’s mother actually died? Damn, so not only did Trump prefer to go a crap New Years party than support his wife attending an ill mother, he actually preferred that party than support his wife while dealing with a dying mother.

    Of course, they are only technically married and Trump likely didn’t marry any of his trophy wives for the sake of their emotional range, or frankly much else beyond their apperance.

    I think Trump would likely get away with a divorce and running single (the evangelicals would give him a free pass regardless) but perhaps he hasn’t the cash she’d likely win from him in such a case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Well this comment aged as well as Melania's mother


    To counter the faux outrage i say this,


    'I Really Don't Care, Do u?'

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd say his lawyers still might do part of it, but yes they asked the judge for permission and the judge approved it (likely with some caveats).

    He knows he's goosed regardless, so he's likely just going to vent, splutter and grandstand.



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