What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

I see Biden was comparing the non acceptance of the loss of the election by Trump to the non acceptance of the losers of the Civil war to their loss the other day.

Will that argument gain traction in the election?

Is there a parallel and was it the case that there were a lot of disaffected losers in the years after the Civil War?

from his speech "“We’re living in an era of a second Lost Cause,” he said. “There’s some in this country trying to turn a loss into a lie – a lie which if allowed to live will once again bring terrible damage to this country"

That's a great angle. Any liberally minded and people of colour will be motivated. Yes, there was and still are a lot of sore losers from the civil war around.

Haley would probably have a better chance against Biden than Trump would. Interesting if there are any Haley/Biden head to head polls.

The country is badly in need of a new generation of leaders.

I agree. I wonder do the Dems have a plan B in place in case Trump isn't nominated?

I can't see Trump beating Biden. Biden isn't great but even he is a step up on Trump. Economy isn't perfect but good enough. Trump surely lost voters after January 6th and who voted against him last time will vote for him this time?

Haley brings a whole new ball game, and could really put it up to Biden. Recent polls show a fair number of Americans want a change from old men running the country. Eg.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4202646-61-percent-support-age-cap-for-presidential-candidates-survey/

She's polling 32% of Republicans, and you'd assume it would be higher or on a par with Trump if you remove the others. Throw in swing voters and some MAGAs and she's in with a chance. Even some democrat voters could be persuaded.

They'd vote for Haley if Trump endorsed her. More so if Haley signalled that she was willing to be a proxy president.

Trump won’t endorse a soul.

Donald Trump didn't even do any real work when he was president, never mind if Haley was. He'd just phone her up and tell her what to do with the implied threat being that he'd sic his base on her and the party if she disobeyed.

There's a term limit on being US president, but there's no term limit on being the puppet master of the Republican party.

"Biden isn't great but even he is a step up on Trump "

I think Biden is, actually really great and quite admirable but his age,cruelly goes against him.

Some people come across better as they age but not him.

He now lacks the natural physical force and vigour of youth(no harm that but not really an electoral asset imo)

We owe him a great debt as it is and I trust that he will step aside if he thinks it necessary. (He doesn't think it is apparently and I have some confidence in his judgement)

I think Biden is a decent man, but he also represents the status quo and allowing the neo-conservative vision of America to continue and that's part of what fed Trumpism in the first place. He's too old and ensconced in the normal way of doing things to really defeat Trumpism, but he could make a recognition that America needs a new kind of politics in order to truly defeat Trumpism rather than just have it baying at the gates. If he could help set the stage for that, I think it would be a great legacy. If not, I think he's just helping to hold off the inevitable.