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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    It is strange that the media seem to fixate on it alright. The number at the end of the year is fairly random and I don't think it indicates changes in driving behaviour much.

    I wonder why they don't publish figures for cancer deaths or smoking related or obesity related. Maybe they do but it's not a part of ringing in the new year, like road fatalities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    RSA says there'll be none by 2050. Loads of speed cameras on big national roads and motorways, double points and fines on bank holidays should sort that right out. Reality and common sense be damned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    By 2050 all cars will have mandatory active safety features like collision avoidance, automatic emergency braking and pedestrian detection. Those are the things that will drive the road deaths to almost zero, not fines and speed cameras.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    One of the only country in the world where a death on the roads makes the national news....

    It's BS.

    I disagree. It's road design, distraction and peoples stupidity that's the issue in most cases. Even the best systems will only ever be aids in peoples driving and wont be allowed to make decisions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    I think the biggest turn off for me with women for me is the "trout lips" look, would they never consider saying "go easy on the oul filler there please!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    If this is controversial it shouldn't be:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    How does a march to end obesity end obesity. Is it a forced march are people free to not join this march are they free to leave once joined.

    Not sure it's a march you or the tweeter are thinking of.

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,333 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Yep. I've got the figures right here on my website.

    It's true that deaths increased 2 years in a row after an all time low in 2021 (probably Covid-related) but 2023 was a 19% increase on a very small number. Most of the public are numerically illiterate so the press play towards that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,657 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You'd have to say that considering the steady rise of car ownership and increased numbers of journeys, our stats are pretty good.

    But doesn't fit the narrative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Na, 184 deaths cannot be considered good, theirs still too many deaths in their down to carelessness



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,391 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,657 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Of course we try to lower the figures, but there is going to be a figure which will be hard to get down below.

    We aren't at 600 any more because cars are much safer than in the 70s and 80s. But there isn't much more that can be done to cars now to save humans who crash them. Bar maybe the cars driving themselves?

    Also, I do believe we have a quantity of suicides in those stats. Can't stop those.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Yes, cars driving themselves, or short term, forcibly taking control in an emergency, is what will drive the number down hopefully to single digits. Automatic braking system was made mandatory in 2022, and we will see other systems made mandatory as well. By 2050 most cars will be able to automatically avoid most accidents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    True, the one vehicle collisions for no apparent reason.

    There is a lot of careless driving, people think they and their steel cage are invulnerable in any situation. Slam it into something fast enough and any car will crumple like a Coke can. They will get away with taking only so many chances but someday their number will come up.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Agricultural subsidies should be based on regenerative farming practice’s.

    Makes no sense to continue to pay people for practices like spraying, tilling, chemical fertiliser & animals being housed in feedlots.

    Coincidently, only for the subsidies most farmer’s wouldnt brake even.

    So it makes absolutely no sense to keep doing what’s we’re doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Frankly, Irish people are great drivers considering we have narrow roads with 80/100km speed limits where cars come within a few feet of each other passing at that speed.

    It's a very frightening driving experience for most foreigners and it's no wonder we need to put a bottle of holy water in the glove box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    If I see a kid(s) with autism in a public setting like a restuarant or supermarket for example, I know I am more than likely going to get annoyed at their behaviour at some stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Speaking of autism, it must be very easy to get diagnosed as an adult. All you have to do is read up on it and answer a few questions for the doctor. Deeply suspicious when I hear about well known people coming out saying they've been diagnosed with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Getting a diagnosis as an adult requires multiple sessions with a psychiatrist... Generally as part of it, they interview a family member to get a gauge on what they were like during childhood etc. Self diagnosis is pretty common though and accepted cause it's pretty costly to do the assessment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭randd1


    On the whole fat acceptance thing, if you're in the 40's regarding your BMI, you're most likely obese. If you're in the 50's, you are.

    So if you are, then you should be made pay full whack for every medical issue you have. One of the biggest reasons we see such a stain on the health service is the national expanding waistline, and the associated health problems that it causes.

    Pretty much everything can be made worse via obesity. And seeing as obesity (in the vast majority of cases, bar a few medical ones) comes down mainly to lifestyle choices, it shouldn't be up to the tax-payer to be bled dry because you'd rather eat a share bag of cheesy puffs than go for a walk.

    You're too fat? Then pay full whack until you lose it, tubby.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Agreed, but id go a bit deeper & tax the fuq out of the product’s that are causing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭djan


    Products don't cause obesity, only excessive consumption. If you overeat (more calories in than out) healthy foods, you will still gain weight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Most dog owners treat their dogs like child substitutes.

    Dog ice cream and doggy treats for an animal that will happily eat cat faeces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Unfortunately I don't have cat faeces handy so I need to give him doggo treats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,822 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I’m not sure that they “happily” eat it. I think, with dogs, it’s more of an eat first ask questions later type thing.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭fortwilliam


    Parents of young children are the most self-centered, narcissistic, rude and blinkered people I have met.

    I do not think your child running around a supermarket pulling food off the shelves is cute, control your brat!

    Restaurants/bars are not creches.. don't bring your brat.

    No, your child does not have ADHD or whatever version you have self diagnosed it with, it is just a little sh!t due to bad parenting.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Products do cause obesity.

    Even if you only ate 1 double cheeseburger out of mc donalds every day as a snack, i can guarantee that will make you obese in time.

    And the problem with alot of the products that make people over consume & obese is there generally cheap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭griffin100


    It's the new Z List Celeb's holy grail now that they've done the mental health bit to death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I believe cheap cooking oils are a major factor in obesity. The new popularity of air fryers may help with this a bit since people will be using less sunflower oil etc. hopefully.

    Most big food manufacturers want to preserve their food shelf items (with stabilisers and emulsifiers) so it won't go bad before they can sell it. They also want to use cheap ingredients to save money and that can mean lowest-common-denominator oils.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭djan


    That is not how food and weight change works. Unless there are medical issues, as long as you take in equal to or less calories than you burn, you will not put on weight. Obviously it is not healthy to consume all calories through cheeseburgers but the body doesn't differentiate source for energy consumption.

    I've personally experienced this concept during a month long road-trip in USA where pretty much every day we'd stop for fastfood en route. This was usually a burger each occasionally with shared fries and a zero drink. Due to being quite active on the holiday overall with lots of walking and hiking we actually lost a bit of weight.

    I would argue that such thinking where blame is placed on the food rather than the person taking responsibility for their actions is a big reason for weight issues plaguing populations.

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