Safe to use a stove with a broken window?

Supercell · 21-12-2023 4:01pm #1

I've ordered in a replacement glass for my multifuel stove after a log tumbled out of my arms when bringing in a load of them and shattered the glass ....

The suppliers are saying it will be after xmas, so that DIY job will have to wait until then.

The stove manual says not to use without a window because of "over firing" risk but i wonder is that just them covering themselves? I'm a bit gutted as the weather is crap and i love a nice toasty stove especially over the xmas holidays,

If i put the damper on to full below and the air wash open above i cannot see how it would be much different to an open fire?

I'll be burning wood so not as hot as coals, what do you think?, safe enough apart from cutting myself on the glass shards left and not going to damage the stove as long as i use a bit of cop or just burn some electricity instead?

10-10-20 · 21-12-2023 4:07pm

Annoyingly, no you can't use it with the door like that, it will throw a flame-ball up the chimney and possibly cause a chimney fire.

Out of interest, what stove is it as I have a spare Oisin glass here which I can't fit?

Buffman · 21-12-2023 4:17pm

Is it in a fireplace or out on it's own? The bigger concern for me would be the burning wood crackling and spitting out some burning embers into the room. You might get away with that in a normal fireplace as it's set back and could have the fireguard up, but not in a stand alone out in the room.

Have you got any scrap metal available to do a temporary patch fix on the window? I assume there's a back boiler from the way you're talking so that probably wouldn't work correctly/efficiently with the open hole either. I can't see anyone advising to use it as is.

Supercell · 21-12-2023 4:43pm

Its an inset stove without back boiler (not Oisin - thanks for the offer), with a stupidly big glass fronted door that looks brillo and modern when not broken but not so good right now.

Fireballs up the chimney sounds like too much drama for me at this time of year, will suck it up and use the electric "fire" on the big day and the boring gas heated rads for the rest, Timing sucks.

Buffman · 21-12-2023 4:59pm

Ye, I think in this case it's better to be safe than sorry. If anything happened, your insurer would probably not cover anything resulting from it being used against manufacturers recommendations.

Rustyman101 · 21-12-2023 5:11pm

Depending on where you live there's a place in New ross co wexford that will cut the glass if you give them a template.

I assume its Dublin but I'm sure there are others out there that do the same service doesn't have to be from the makers.

Supercell · 23-12-2023 9:07am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121523030#Comment_121523030

Thanks, there's a few places like that alright, problem is the glass isn't plain, it covers the whole door so is see through in the middle but the rest is black. That would do in a pinch if i couldn't get the original. I'm going to get a spare one and bung in the attic for the next time i do this.And knowing me there will be a next time. Note to self - next stove don't get a completely glass fronted one despite how sleek it looks!

The Continental Op · 23-12-2023 6:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121528671#Comment_121528671

The common issue is people slamming the door shut when there is a log that is just a bit too long ;-) You seem to have been very unlucky.

monseiur · 23-12-2023 6:42pm

If you're handy with a jig saw, get a piece of 1mm or 1.5mm sheet metal cut to size, but allowing say 3mm all around for expansion. Attach a piece of say 10mm x 10mm angle iron diagonally (on inside) with pop rivets to keep metal rigid. Fit in place with intumescent mastic

Gusser09 · 23-12-2023 6:48pm

Put a small fire down and see. Id say you'll be fine.

listermint · 23-12-2023 6:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121530281#Comment_121530281

He's got 2 other heating system options. It makes no sense to play with fire excuse the pun. Especially this time of year.

micks_address · 23-12-2023 7:04pm

Nulties hardware outside of julianstown sorted me with a glass one Stephens day. They told me at the time if it's a Stanley stove stockists are obliged to stock 3 spare of the glass form each model.

Supercell · 24-12-2023 1:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121530384#Comment_121530384

My next stove is a Stanley so!

The Continental Op · 24-12-2023 2:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121532928#Comment_121532928

I wouldn't rush to get a Stanley unless its the ideal stove for your needs. There is no connection to Ireland or Waterford anymore the foundry there went years back, even the assembly plant is long gone and in the last couple of years they have moved all the spares over to the UK.

Stigura · 29-12-2023 12:30am

" a stupidly big glass fronted door "

Oh, god. Have ye had a Price on that?

My door's glass is c. 10" x 10", max. It's also cracked. Nasty crack(s). But, nothing to cause any concerns, as long as I don't bash it somehow. Using it perfectly happily, even as I type. Have been for months yet.

Only, figuring I'd best sort it out, I asked in the local provisioners ~ they cut glass there. Just in passing. Idle curiosity. I didn't have the exact measurements on me at the time. Lad reckoned they price it by the Square Inch!

That got my attention! When I got home, measured it. Got the calculator out ..... 😱 Sweet Jesus!!! My dinky little bugger's set to cost me about €80.00!!! So, yeah. Bloody good luck with ye " Stupidly big " piece ~ with the 'special, black trim' too? And ye gonna get a Spare one too??? Wow! 👀

listermint · 29-12-2023 1:24am

80 seems reasonable tbh

Safe to use a stove with a broken window?

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