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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I would say it more a case of what is NOT in discovery, specifically that it does not contain a single shred of evidence of any wrong doing on the part of the two women and almost certainly debunks every other crack-pot nonsense they dreamt up to try to pervert the outcome of the Election.

    So far , anytime the findings from any of these people have come to light it shows that they knew there was nothing wrong very soon after election day , but they continue to spout the same lies 3+ years later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,994 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Rudys defamation case was civil not criminal. there is nothing that a president could do (legally) to reverse it or set it aside



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,018 ✭✭✭Panrich


    During a second Trump term, I’d be wary of relying on current rule of law to inform what might happen. That’s the danger in all this. Nobody knows what he will do.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There's both a pretty good blueprint in place and his history of screwing people over. If Rudy thinks he's special, he's in for a rude awakening if Trump wins again.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    What I find so tragically funny is that Rudy in his many cases taken contesting the election he repeated the mantra of 'all will be revealed in court' yet when he's asked in court to produce said evidence he replies with that he's got theories but no evidence, and he gets disbarred as a result.

    And then the same thing happens with the defamation case, he claims that he's got all the evidence and that those poor people he defamed are guilty of the crimes he's alleged, yet in court he comes up with zilch. And now he's got an order to pay hundreds of millions as a result.

    One could almost forgive someone who's no history in the court (and a very dubious attorney representing them) but Rudi took down the Italian mob, and would be very familiar with the necessity of having rock solid evidence in court. The mind boggles



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    And then the same thing happens with the defamation case, he claims that he's got all the evidence and that those poor people he defamed are guilty of the crimes he's alleged, yet in court he comes up with zilch. And now he's got an order to pay hundreds of millions as a result.

    And then walks out of the court and repeats the same lie!!

    It's incredibly hard to actually understand the thought process here.

    He was at one point a pretty competent lawyer , why on earth would he do that?

    To what end??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,018 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Let’s put it this way. I’d rather be in Rudy Guiliani’s shoes than the two election workers if Trump got re-elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,412 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I think hes very mentally unwell, and has gotten himself into such a pickle that his only thought is to deny the reality of the situation and to double down on the bullsh!t that he's been spouting.

    The fact that he's saying he wasn't allowed to present any evidence is bizarre. Didn't he elect not to testify in the case?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,994 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's the same angle Trump uses - decides not to testify and then pretends like it wasn't his choice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭francois


    Interesting background on the Crossfire Hurricane binder and Drumpf's obsession with "mentally declassified" top secret information

    https://thinkbigpicture.substack.com/p/trump-binder-russia-crossfire-hurricane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Colorado Supreme Court rules Donald Trump is "disqualified" from serving as president under 14th Amendment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭maebee


    Hopefully it's the end of him.


    "Donald Trump is ineligible for the US presidency under the constitution's insurrection clause, the Colorado Supreme Court has ruled.

    The ruling comes as the former US leader prepares to run for the presidency in 2024.


    Trump is accused of inciting riots at the US Capitol Building in an effort to overturn the result after he lost the US election in 2020."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,343 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I'm going to be pretty disappointed if this doesn't get him at least struck of the ballot in that state.

    Whatever the case, my fear is that rulings such as these, while correct, will contribute to a backlash against claimed judicial overreach, which could end up being good for Trump. However, if a ruling is correct, then it's correct, so I don't say that it shouldn't have been made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,994 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Link to the Colorado SC story. That verdict bars Trump from the Colorado ballot and will be appealed to the USSC IMO.

    It will very quickly lay bare just how married certain justices are to the notion of Trump brand conservatism. I would also expect quite a uptick in stochastic terrorism and lunatic GOP bolloxology in Congress.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Yes ,very interesting.Hopefully very consequential as well.Meadows does physically look like the battery bunny.

    Set the hounds ,boys :-)

    Indeed "The end" is very wishful thinking.

    It was always ,imo a very long shot that he could be removed from the ballot in this way.

    Not that it wouldn't be deserved,of course.

    The ruling is on stay pending appeal to the SCOTUS,I understand.

    Shall tune into CNN tonight for the commentaries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,412 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    The whole world is just out to get some people, isn't it? Sucks to be you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,176 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    What a completely strange way to spend the precious little time we have on earth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,412 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    There's very little chance that the US Supreme Court will want to involve itself in keeping the leading GOP candidate off the ballot. Unfortunately this will be overturned quite quickly, and in my view, it'd be much better to give Trump a resounding beating at the ballot box (again) than keep him off the ballot altogether. This will simply be portrayed as the judicial system interfering in the political system and could be just as damaging in the long run as another Trump term.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,343 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't have a problem with the USSC striking the ruling down so long as the decision comes from a legal opinion and not from a political bias. It would be disappointing, absolutely, but cynicism about judicial rulings plays directly into Trump's hands since his whole political project depends on nurturing this kind of distrust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Tend to agree ( the f er also thrives on chaos)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Sonic the Shaghog


    He hasn't been convicted of insurrection. They may as well have ruled he can't run as he's actually a Mexican citizen because people say so

    In other words it will get swiftly appealed and overturned.

    You see this is the **** nonsense that may end up actually getting him elected. Pushing those in the middle towards him when they see this absolute shite going on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Sure ,it may well work to his advantage.

    But the Supreme Court of Colorado has found that he engaged in insurrection (I think).

    So that is pretty close to a conviction.

    A finding ,anyway.

    What is the alternative -to prevent members of the public from taking him to court for being unqualified to stand?

    They are right even it was unwise and it was their political,civil and moral right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,343 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @Sonic the Shaghog

    He hasn't been convicted of insurrection. They may as well have ruled he can't run as he's actually a Mexican citizen because people say so

    I watched Donald Trump, then the sitting POTUS, take to a podium near the US Capitol and proclaim an absolute whopper of a lie to a crowd of angry supporters. Several months before that, he took to a podium and told the crowd that if they were he lost the election, that meant it would be rigged. He was consciously and deliberately trying to undermine confidence in the election and attempting to overturn its result by illegal means. We have him on tape trying to get the Georgia SOS to 'find' more votes, as well.

    It's only because of the due process which comes with liberal democracy that Trump has not yet been convicted of insurrection or inciting same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,468 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Any clown contributing to this guy while complaining that inflation is making them broke can **** right off

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Scott Perry when asked to turn over his messages..

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Ashbourne hoop


    It'll be interesting to see if the USSC overturns this and what legal basis, if any, they'll have to do so. In any other period in time this would be the end of the guy, not that the end shouldn't have been a long time ago, but in the current atmosphere in the USA, who knows.

    I doubt it will matter a jot to his followers and the MAGA members of the GOP. It's the very definition of a Cult now, and completely far removed from politics as is possible.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    "Quick, give me money! No time to think, just donate donate donate!!".

    Yeah. A totally normal, ideologically solid movement this MAGA thing is.

    Fúcking snort. Funny how certain individuals disappear when the quantifiable shít hits the fan around Trump.



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