Enoch Burke is The Prisoner

Leg End Reject · 13-12-2023 12:31AM

I've read it all now, Enoch is a modern day religious martyr and Boards is in on the act by allowing discussion that might influence a non-existent jury and therefore prejudice a case before the courts.

I'm amused by his childish refusal to answer when asked if he agrees to purge his contempt. I hope someone is taking care of his faithful satchel while he sulks in prison.

Brendan Bendar · 13-12-2023 07:00AM

The one with the two ham sangers in it?

Baba Yaga · 13-12-2023 08:17AM

ham sanwidges be too tasty for a martyr...

just wondering,is it the mammy behind all this godshitery?

Brendan Bendar · 13-12-2023 08:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489626#Comment_121489626

Hard to know..but its a shame to see wasted lives with this meat headed carry on.

Ashbourne hoop · 13-12-2023 09:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121485991#Comment_121485991

This. 100% this. Anything else is nonsense whataboutery.

Ashbourne hoop · 13-12-2023 09:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121488693#Comment_121488693

Huge piece of information missing, but it's par for the course for Enoch's supporters. It's actually hilariously tragic at this stage.

13-12-2023 10:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489819#Comment_121489819

Would really call myself a supporter young lady, think of it more as a passing tip of the hat.

Ashbourne hoop · 13-12-2023 10:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490087#Comment_121490087

Can't even understand that to be honest. He's done nothing in any way admirable.

StormForce13 · 13-12-2023 11:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121488805#Comment_121488805

Of course that's not why he's in prison.

But you know that already so, rather like him, you're presumably just looking for a bit of attention.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-12-2023 11:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489285#Comment_121489285

He's not on trial.

StormForce13 · 13-12-2023 11:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121488607#Comment_121488607

Currently they can't.

But what I was suggesting that a legislative amendment (or statutory order) be drawn up whereby anyone who continues to receive a public service salary while in prison for contempt of court would have a set percentage of that salary deducted for the costs of accommodation. So it wouldn't just apply to the very Reverent Unuch De Burqua but to any public servant who tries to pull the same stunt.

In essence, the taxpayer shouldn't be obliged to pay on the double for any public service employee who decides to act the maggot.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-12-2023 11:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490163#Comment_121490163

Lets get something straight: no one - other than Burke's immediate family- is stupid enough to believe he's in jail because of his beliefs. Not his religious beliefs anyway.

13-12-2023 11:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490190#Comment_121490190

Ah here even they don’t believe that shite. It’s attention seeking.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489368#Comment_121489368

Can anyone remember how many times so far this thread has been opened and closed due to court hearings etc? Any time there’s been a court hearing (other than the will you purge your contempt yes/no one’s) it’s been closed until the decision was made.

tayto lover · 13-12-2023 11:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489702#Comment_121489702

Exactly. I wouldn't like to be in prison for one minute. I know how we all see this but obviously he doesn't see it our way and feels that he is defending a principle. Many people would swear that black was white in order to get out but not Enoch which is admiral to a lot of people who see him as defending something or other.

ohnonotgmail · 13-12-2023 11:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490163#Comment_121490163

There is a word for what they are doing.

Hotblack Desiato · 13-12-2023 11:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121488805#Comment_121488805

He's an idiot who disrupted the education of many students, attempted to victimise one student in particular, and has since wasted large sums of taxpayers' money - and you think this is to be applauded.

13-12-2023 11:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490141#Comment_121490141

Look, the man will stay in pudding for xmas, he could walk out whenever he likes, but he doesn’t, why? Because he chooses not to in protest, defending his beliefs, whatever they may be.

What is quite scary around here these days is the fact when a man stands up for his beliefs then he is ridiculed, regardless of what those beliefs are he has a right to protest, and if a man is willing to accept the consequences of his protest then so be it . In my book you get credit for this, and it seems the longer this case goes on the more his antagonists are becoming uncomfortable.

Like I said, a passing tip of the hat, as a centrist most threads like this make me uncomfortable because there appears to be a loud large majority on one side, there is absolutely no debate going on here so it’s not a topic for me, good luck.

pixelburp · 13-12-2023 11:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121489766#Comment_121489766

It has basically shown two types of defence or obfuscation:

Outright support cos of a shared hostility towards LGBTQ
Contrarianism just cos "he's standing by his principles" - even though "principles" here amount to a rejection of the law.

TBH I'd question how much of the latter leans to the former, but either way both knowingly ignore the prosaic reality this comes down to a malcontent refusing to accept a court order and the ask to purge contempt. If this was an abusive husband disobeying a restraining order, which is a genetically similar court issue, people might be less inclined to waffle.

Burke's actions with the school authorities found himself in the courts in the first place, and now hides behind his religion as a shield from owning the fact his behaviour has put him in jail.

Flaneur OBrien · 13-12-2023 11:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490263#Comment_121490263

If you want to go down the road, what about the student and the school? Do they not have a right to peaceful study?

Him appearing at the gate is a stark visual reminder of the intolerance of the world towards trans individuals.

Do they need that daily? If your child was neuro-diverse, would you be ok with someone pointing it out, day after day?

I'm sure the child has enough on their plate without that, and our concern should be with them.

salmocab · 13-12-2023 11:49AM

Standing up for your beliefs and garnering attention while you sit in prison for stupidity are not the same

L1011 · 13-12-2023 11:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490263#Comment_121490263

He isn't willing to accept the consequences. He insists nothing has changed and he is still a teacher; and that he is above the law

There is nothing admirable in these actions.

pixelburp · 13-12-2023 11:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490263#Comment_121490263

What is quite scary around here these days is the fact when a man stands up for his beliefs then he is ridiculed, regardless of what those beliefs are he has a right to protest, and if a man is willing to accept the consequences of his protest then so be it . In my book you get credit for this, and it seems the longer this case goes on the more his antagonists are becoming uncomfortable.

Stop exaggerating the issue here as a little excuse to backdoor chide: you read "religious beliefs" and seem to extrapolate that an obstinate refusal to accept the judgement of the State is grounds for admiration? Would you extend that to "free man" tax-dodgers or those breaking restraining orders? I hate whataboutery but either the Law is upheld - or it isn't.

I'd throw out Einstein's comments about the definition of insanity here, and that Burke seems to think that his (fundamentalist) religious views are somehow a trump card from the judgement that he was no longer allowed on the school premises - a result caused by his antagonism and hostility towards school employees. He had the chance to walk away from a problematic situation with his career and reputation intact - instead he has effectively blown it up.

There were a dozen ways this could have gone down; not necessarily to Burke's satisfaction but his behaviour in response to the initial in-house decision by the school led here - not persecution over his religious beliefs. His actions make him appear obstinate at best, and an antagonistic and obnoxious person at worst. The patina of faith doesn't somehow mutate his actions into that of martyrdom, or beg admiration.

VinLieger · 13-12-2023 12:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490263#Comment_121490263

LOL you are still trying to push this idea that you are a centrist? Hilarious.

Also you are the one refusing to debate this by not accepting the basic facts of his situation and continually trying to push a false narrative. Theres nothing to debate when you wont accept the basic facts of what has happened.

SharkMX · 13-12-2023 12:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490216#Comment_121490216

He is just afraid of his Ma.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-12-2023 12:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490263#Comment_121490263

Because he chooses not to in protest, defending his beliefs, whatever they may be.

Good point - do you actually KNOW what his beliefs are? As in, what beliefs does he have that specifically landed him in jail?

I'm guessing you don't and won't be able to answer this question.

Former Former Former · 13-12-2023 12:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490377#Comment_121490377

That's exactly it. He's not really afraid of God's judgement, he answers to an even higher power.

Those kids have all been absolutely warped by their upbringing and I have some degree of sympathy for them, they never stood a chance of being normal. The parents should be in prison, not Enoch.

SharkMX · 13-12-2023 12:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490427#Comment_121490427

I bet the mother visits him and the whole visit is spent saying the rosary.

Child abuse of the highest order from those parents.

Frank Bullitt · 13-12-2023 12:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490263#Comment_121490263

Can we pin that he is not in prison because of his beliefs, he is in there because of his behaviour and actions in the workplace.

He can and should be ridiculed for that, because they are the actions of a petulant child, not an adult. The whole family has a reputation for being like this, that again is not to be given credit for, how anyone can say that is laughable.

There is a loud majority because it is a pretty one sided debate. He isn't in jail because he believes in something, he is in jail because he did something. Simply purging that will get him out of prison, but he is playing the dumb martyr and staying in there.

Credit my arse.

Quin_Dub · 13-12-2023 12:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490263#Comment_121490263

But the point is, that by his actions he is ensuring that his "beliefs" never get discussed properly , his legal rights as regards his ability to "comply" with his religion etc. are never ever going to get discussed.

If he'd gone through the available dispute resolution process then they absolutely would have been.

His ACTIONS have made it all about his inability to acknowledge the courts and his employers disciplinary process.

If his goal is to further the rights and position of his religious views , he has f*cked that up beyond all recovery.

StormForce13 · 13-12-2023 02:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490543#Comment_121490543

I suspect that the legal advice that he's getting from a high profile solicitor (currently unemployed) and a trainee solicitor may not be the most helpful for a simple chap who has, through no fault of his own, found himself in a small bit of legal strife.

Hopefully, one day soon, the Holy Spirit will descend upon him and he will come to his senses. Fingers crossed.

Enoch Burke is The Prisoner

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