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FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,643 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Do you think that he actually looks over everything? Have you any idea how a government works?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,643 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Ehh, was there not a natural disaster in Leitrim?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    No there was a tornado that caused some damage but as far as I know thankfully nobody died or was seriously injured. But you have 700+ people on trolleys in a hospital where last week there was report into the death of a 16 year old who was let fester with sepsis.

    That should be a much bigger priority that Leo pressing the flesh to score a few votes for the local candidate. He's looking out for his own party, himself and the country last.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,643 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Right, a tornado in Ireland is not a natural disaster...got it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,496 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Actually he should be able to source a few just down the road from the tornado

    (I know it's a 767 but couldn't resist...)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    It looks like a boat was overturned and some debris blown on the road.

    Hardly qualifies as a disaster of any sort.

    Speaking of an actual disaster, great article today in the Guardian on FFG's decade of housing failure and how it's given fuel to the far-right.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/11/ireland-housing-crisis-far-right-europe-refugees



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,643 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Maybe do a bit of reading about it before you post nonsense like that. Christ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    I should be reading about the zero casualties, zero injuries and minor property damage???

    Again, if you want an actual disaster, here's a decade of FFG housing failure

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/11/ireland-housing-crisis-far-right-europe-refugees



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,649 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    Did all the other parties create and sustain the housing crisis which has led to all this anti-immigrant sentiment?

    #buildHomesNotHate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    He was opening the new bypass at Moycullen at 9am this morning. Arrived in a helicopter. Surely a Taoiseach is too senior for nonsense like opening roads.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Oh please. FF broke the housing market and FG somehow made it worse. 2 parties. I don't think you have any idea how angry young people are about their rental costs and house prices.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,649 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    seem to spend a lot of time objecting to them just like all the other parties

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    What's ro and what are they objecting to?

    That statement doesn't make much sense to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    It's natural but not a disaster. Property that is insured was damaged. Not really a disaster. Thankfully.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,643 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    There were injuries, there are houses with roofs ripped off and walls that were pushed over. Yeah, sounds minor to me.

    Might as well throw in the housing stuff as well then, cause that has everything to do with what happened in Leitrim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    When I think of the 4km stretch of road that Leo "opened" yesterday and I think of the disaster that is the children's hospital, you have to wonder where their priorities lie. 7 years late, 6 times over budget, final cost unknown, opening date unknown. How many roads and other healthcare facilities could have we have built using the massive overspend? They don't even want to talk about the children's hospital anymore but they have time to open roads and visit tornado sites. Get back to work, you have created a society full of problems in basic services - housing, health, environment etc etc. Methinks Leo will leave Irish politics very soon.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Perhaps Leo should get in his helicopter and visit a hospital. He can explain to the people on trolleys why they are there. The trolley crisis is worsening by the day!

    5 days ago...

    INMO Trolley watch: 484 patients waiting for beds in Irish hospitals

    484 admitted patients are waiting for beds this morning, according to Thursday's Irish Nurses Midwives Organisations (INMO) Trolley Watch.

    349 patients are waiting in the emergency department, while 135 are in wards elsewhere in the hospital.

    The hospital with the most amount of patients waiting on beds is University Hospital Limerick, with 91 patients waiting on beds. 43 of those patients are in the emergency department, with 48 elsewhere in the hospital.

    3 hours ago...

    The INMO demands that the HSE take urgent action as 747 patients wait for a hospital bed. Figures showed that 747 admitted patients, including 32 children, were waiting for a hospital bed yesterday morning. 

    =================

    He should let management know before he arrives so they can hide the trolleys. That's what they normally do when ministers and Taoiseachs visit hospitals. As a former failed health minister, Leo will know how it works. They could get him to cut a ribbon somewhere for optics. This government and it's head in the sand supporters...

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,356 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    That article is crazy.

    A more robust analysis would conclude that we have been very good at planning for the future in some areas, badly in others, and just got it wrong a few times.

    To give an example of the last point, we have possibly the best network of inter-city motorways in Europe at a time when the emphasis has moved to public transport. We did plan, but we planned for the wrong thing.

    On education, we have planned really well, executed really well and got nearly all of it right. Our kids are the best-educated in Ireland, we have moved to create a network of new modern technological universities in the regions to complement the traditional older universities, while also building up further education to create a comprehensive tertiary education sector.

    Our Children's Hospital will be the finest in Europe when completed, albeit at huge cost.

    On public transport, we are finally getting it right with three major public transport projects progressing through An Bord Pleanala, with the first going to tender next year.

    Then, and probably the best of all, the way that we have managed FDI for nearly half a century, becoming the place in Europe to base your multinational. All planned and executed expertly.

    People talk about the luck of the Irish but if the likes of Ciaran Casey and his misery economics are correct, we are off the scale in terms of luck, seeing as we are doing so well.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,605 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    To give an example of the last point, we have possibly the best network of inter-city motorways in Europe at a time when the emphasis has moved to public transport. We did plan, but we planned for the wrong thing.

    We build motorways in the 00s that other countries built in the 70s and 80s. Other countries focus on public transport now because they have a fully functional highway network. Look at the Netherlands for example. The motorways built in Ireland have been a remarkably good investment for the country and definitely helped in the recovery years by making the regions more accessible.

    Investing in public transport along said corridors would have had a much less benefit because we are a low density, sparsely populated island.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    You've some gall defending this shower, and the best you can do is a rip off hospital and few roads, which no doubt we also massively overpaid for.

    How about the fact the housing is now affordable to all but the very highest paid?

    Or that young people are dying needlessly on hospital trolleys?

    The only hope FFG have of staying in power is because of a lack of alternative. Not remotely because of anything they've 'achieved'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,356 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    If somebody is going to claim that we were the worst for planning over the last century when we managed to turn ourselves from the poorest country in Europe to among the richest, then they deserve to have that pointed out and laughed at.

    Health and housing are problems everywhere, it is why the opposition have no solutions, only soundbites. The only thing you are correct about is that there are no alternatives to the Greens, FF and FG, every other party in the Dail hasn't a clue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    The faux outrage doesn't work to be honest. The housing numbers don't lie. Home ownership rates are circa 70% in Ireland and the majority of new builds are going to people buying to live in.

    Yes we need more homes but a lot of parties have spent a significant about of time and energy blocking homes getting build across the country. This is creating a backlog which needs to be resolved.

    Not sure why you are using someone dying as some sort of points winning exercise online. The HSE needs work, if you think the answer is coming from Sinn Fein did you see the people flocking over the border during covid? I have no idea how to fix the HSE and Im not sure who does



    We hadn't the money or population to build a huge network of roads in 70/80. Most people left to work in other countries as soon as they could.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Realistically the motorways had to be the primary investment at the time. It is unfortunate we couldn't build them earlier but we simply had no money.

    Public transport investment has been delayed by the 09 GFC just as it was about to get going, but it is ramping up again now.

    When people ask how we have such a supposedly strong economy yet weak infrastructure the answer is relatively straightforward. We have gone from being 50 years behind everyone to 20 years behind (or whatever metric you choose to use).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly



    Our Children's Hospital will be the finest in Europe when completed, albeit at huge cost.

    You have made some doozy statements in the past but this takes the biscuit. Only someone working in BAM could say it's the best childrens hospital in Europe. BAM have absolutely raped the taxpayer and continue to do so. 7 years late and still no estimated final cost or opening date!!!??? In what universe is this acceptable?

    It's one of the most expensive buildings in the world. So much politics around it too.

    National Children's Hospital may not open until 2025, expert warns (breakingnews.ie)

    The National Children’s Hospital was “an outlier” globally in terms of cost and was now one of the most expensive buildings in the world, he said.

    “Given it's a hospital, which will be a fairly standard process because many hospitals are built around the world, it's very much an outlier in the way that we project managed it and the way that we've actually gone out to tender for it.

    “We literally went into the marketplace without a final design and without a final budget in place. So the outlier being that we handed over a design process to a group of people.”

    Dr Davis questioned if it was “politically expedient” that there wasn’t a completion date yet, given that there could be a general election next year.

    “There's still a further probably 18 months before we actually see the first child admitted at this stage. Had it been within a couple of months, then we probably would have expected the board to have approved it (a completion date). But given that it probably is not within a couple of months of May next year, nobody really wants to announce the date, I suspect, because there's an election due next year.”

    Dr Davis said it had been “glib” for the Minister for Health to say that the hospital was 90 per cent complete. “We need more detail on this. I think it's the responsibility of the board to publish a much more comprehensive plan of when they believe it's going to be finished and more importantly, when are we going to see the first children being treated?”

    --------------

    2017 article...

    The proposed €1 billion National Children’s Hospital in Dublin will be the most expensive children’s hospital to be built anywhere in the world, according to international data.

    After Adelaide and Dublin, the next most expensive hospitals on the list compiled by architectural data company Emporis are three US hospitals finished in 2012, for between €546 million and €617 million each. Two are in Chicago and the other is a women's hospital in Texas.

    The recently built Alder Hey Children's Hospital in Liverpool was designed by the same architects involved at St James's. With 270 beds, it is smaller than the Irish children's hospital but the cost is just £280 million (€330 million). The price actually dropped by almost £60 million due to a downturn in construction at the time. Opened in 2015, it is located in parkland in a suburb of the city.

    ---------------

    It's a national disgrace. We could have 2-3 childrens hospitals built at this point if FFG did it correctly.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Dr Davis questioned if it was “politically expedient” that there wasn’t a completion date yet, given that there could be a general election next year.

    Whatever about anything else, this makes absolutely no sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It does. Think about it. If they publish a date before the election and miss it (most likely), then its all over the news before a general election. Better not to publish a date at all. Cowardly yes.

    He goes on to say...

    “There's still a further probably 18 months before we actually see the first child admitted at this stage. Had it been within a couple of months, then we probably would have expected the board to have approved it (a completion date). But given that it probably is not within a couple of months of May next year, nobody really wants to announce the date, I suspect, because there's an election due next year.”

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    If they just don't have it open before the election they are screwed anyway.

    The continued unclarity is hardly doing them any favours. I don't discount his displeasure at the delay, but the political analysis is somewhat lacking.

    Mistakes have clearly been made in the whole affair, though I doubt right now that everyone would agree on what they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    It makes a lot of sense.

    Why line yourself up for a date you cant hit, or promise a post election completion date that is unfavourable, thus inviting the opposition to hit you over the head with your failure to deliver.

    Best to keep quiet and deflect.

    SF do it almost daily, especially on immigration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    O'Reilly (FG) should be doing prison time for the shenanigans he caused. But this is Ireland. Wrong location, wrong design, poor planning, poor procurement, terrible contract, useless ministers. The overspend is criminal. Imagine what else we could have built if it was built on time and anywhere near budget. Imagine all the extra beds we could have in the system.

    Will we have nurses to staff it? They are leaving in their droves due to working conditions and lack of housing.

    Some of the FFG voters should actually get a chance to walk the corridors of an A&E that is crowded with trolleys. I have done it several times with family members and it is pretty grim. It's actually distressing to see it. They might not so dismissive then. Not saying you are by the way.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I'm not going into the location thing again in depth, but it was not a political recommendation and the way it's carelessly thrown out as an obvious problem just emphasises that people expect easy decisions to be made where they don't exist. Of course, part of the delay is because the original proposal was rejected by ABP, which unfortunately is the risk of a judicial system separate from the legislature.

    The overspend has a large inflationary aspect to it, but clearly it has not been a well run programme. Despite frequent assertions to the contrary, Ireland has delivered multiple infrastructure projects under budget such as a number of motorways and the Luas BXD. Cost estimate increases since 2019 really have been unforeseeable so I wouldn't hold those against anyone (e.g. metrolink).

    I assume you mean James Reilly? I'm not a fan, but not sure what he had to do with this particular issue.



    I hardly think everything has been done perfectly, or even particularly well at times. However when it comes to issues such as housing, I do with people would at least acknowledge that it is not a phenomenon unique to Ireland and our governing parties. This means the problem is clearly more intractable than it is given credit for. Ultimately, very little will dissuade me from my view that the housing issue is one of voters simply not wanting to face the reality of what is required to fix it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,981 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Children are definitely not the priority for this government.

    Another kid dead, seemingly because staff were so overwhelmed they couldn't care for her properly. There was that other girl in Limerick as well. Health service is crumbling and our leaders are too busy blathering on about climate change.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yes, because climate change, ensuing environmental impacts and air pollution have thankfully never caused the death of a single child anywhere.

    Mistakes were clearly made in this scenario, but sepsis is an incredibly common cause of child mortality, and mortality in general, globally including across Europe for a reason. It is both hard to treat and easy to misidentify. Ireland's under 5 mortality rate is lower than Germany, France, Switzerland, UK, Denmark, Austria to name a few. This seems like a pretty relevant fact.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    I don't think anyone is dismissive of the issues in HSE. Not that I have seen anyone.

    You are posting about one group of supporters as if they don't care which is nonsense. Fact is looking at the options the government has proposed v the opposition these voters feel the government have a better plan than the opposition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I have seen some very dismissive comments on our healthcare workers and the INMO. I won't say too much because the user is very fond of the Report button.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    From the article I shared earlier home ownership rates in Ireland have dropped from 79% in 1991 to 66% now. Given that many will own homes for a very long time, or inherit a family home, that's quite a significant drop in my book.

    With house prices at 8 times the average wage and 10 in Dublin, it's quite obvious then that home ownership is now quite unaffordable, other than for the highest earners and those with inherited wealth.

    This is not because of other parties blocking building. Were planning appeals removed in the morning I don't think there'd be any significant change to housing output. There simply isn't the capacity to build because FFG have shifted delivery entirely, and very lucratively, to a private sector which has no great incentive to increase output.

    Only those living in some delusional FFG bubble, or with self-serving motives, could see outrage at the needless death of a young girl in a hospital trolley as 'faux'.

    UHL is my local hospital. Every winter I see elderly people afraid to go to hospital with quite treatable conditions for fear they'll be abandoned to die alone on a hospital trolley. That's the reality people here live with and for me personally, I see that if a change doesn't occur soon, that's what I too will be facing in my old age.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    And all they're doing on climate change is blathering on. (And wasting money)

    Our performance in terms of climate change is piss poor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    House prices have increased because of the amount of planning rejections in the system. Every time a builder has to resubmit planning etc it drives up the cost of the house.

    No idea how you can claim parties blocking houses is not a significant issue. It has been a significant issues for years. Not just parties, in our local village you have community groups. Only a few days you had a lady posting about a 5 storey apartment block they wanted to build outside the village. This was a disgrace and wasn't in with the "image of the town". When it was pointed out to her she had multiple posts on the same group complaining that no house/apartments available in the village for her children she ignored. She was trying to get as many people as possible to object. That's the sort of people who you are dealing with all over Ireland

    You complain about high house prices and then sy the private sector have no incentive to build. Plus the number of houses each year are increasing.

    Problem is project which should have been built 5 years ago are only getting delivered now because of blocked planning. The cost of those houses have increased during that period.

    If you want to talk about "delusional bubble" then I would think you need to look at the opposition who haven't got a single coherent plan and would cripple Ireland in the matter of months.

    Have you ever done anything to help UHL? volunteered during the winter months? fund raisers? (I ask but I know I will get some made up answer but it's fun anyway)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    That's your answer, I should be volunteering in UHL. Like I said earlier, you lot have some gall.

    As for the rest of you argument about housing, even if it wasn't a load of nonsense (and it is), why haven't FFG improved the planning process?

    If that was the problem, why has it taken this long to fix?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,916 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Faux outrage is best description.

    Multiple threads now you are complaining about the HSE, nurses etc. Never any answers, just complaining. On a previous thread I tried to explain something to you and you went off on one because you couldnt understand.

    In terms of housing, you don't understand the planning process, you don't understand the building process. I think we will leave it at that.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/economy/arid-41222296.html



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    This is not because of other parties blocking building. Were planning appeals removed in the morning I don't think there'd be any significant change to housing output. There simply isn't the capacity to build because FFG have shifted delivery entirely, and very lucratively, to a private sector which has no great incentive to increase output.

    This makes absolutely no sense. Planning is absolutely an issue, restrictions on density are absolutely an issue, and there is very limited data that would suggest developers are deliberately holding back on construction. There is also quite an obvious incentive to increase output - you make more money. The difficulties in increasing output are all either related to planning which delays or inhibits construction that does take place, or lack of resources.

    This trope that there is some mass cartel like effort to restrict supply to maintain high prices is utterly ludicrous.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    As for the rest of you argument about housing, even if it wasn't a load of nonsense (and it is), why haven't FFG improved the planning process?

    They literally have a planning bill in parliament at the moment.

    As to why it is not fixed in general, the answer is that the majority of the population are a bunch of flaming hypocrites who want more housing but want it built nowhere near their own idyllic abodes and councillors have never lost support by rejecting developments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    I've been hearing about planning delays for the last twenty years now...

    Like I said, why is it only being looked at now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    To increase output, given the shortage of skilled workers, would involve increasing the salaries of tradesmen and labourers, to incentivise people to the industry.

    Because there are limits to what people can pay for a house (central bank lending rules) this will eat into builders and developers profit margins, as it can't be passed to the consumer.

    What's the incentive to build more houses, which is more work, when the profit margin decreases? It's doing more work for the same money.

    There doesn't have to be a 'cartel'. This is just the kind of thing that happens when the market is badly governed.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Poor governance, vested interests and the fact that it is not a straightforward thing to do. Many jurisdictions, specifically does with common law for whatever reason, are having the same trouble at the moment.

    And also, because quite frankly a large percentage of the population don't want it fixed no matter what they say. Because then they won't be able to constantly object with "I'm not against development, I just want the right development" ad nauseum.


    There is plenty of blame to be laid at the Government's feet. Understaffing and underfunding of ABP chief among them. However, it is absolutely not an easy thing to fix overall.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Companies the world over across multiple industries balance profit margins against actual profits. This is not unique to construction. What does seem to be unique to construction is that people are convinced there is a national/global cartel essentially price fixing and deliberately slowing production.

    A developer who builds twice as much might only make 190% as much profit due to declining margins, but that is still them making a lot more money.

    There does have to be a cartel, because otherwise one developer would eye the gap for just building lots and absolutely rake in the money. We don't think car companies are deliberately holding back production of cars to make their individual cars more expensive. Why on earth do people so readily believe construction developers are?


    Thankfully, when and if we move towards state built housing again and run into all of the exact same problems maybe we will look at solving the underlying issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    I'll agree with you that it's not an easy fix.

    It'll take years to sort out.

    The sooner FFG get out we might be able to get started.

    The problem has nothing to do with common law jurisdictions. The law hasn't changed radically in centuries.

    What has changed, is relying solely on a private market which is not a 'free' market.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    What has changed, is relying solely on a private market which is not a 'free' market.

    What has changed is that lots of people now own houses and don't want other people getting houses built near them and old people aren't dying as early.

    I have no idea in what sense you think it is not a "free" market, though the protectionism of existing homeowners is certainly a problem.


    Maybe there would indeed be a raft of mid-density apartments built all over the city by a SF govt and this would be readily accepted by councillors and populations. And maybe all the homeowners in the country would accept potential devaluing of their assets and also paying for the necessary subsidising of these new builds to make them "affordable". But I highly doubt it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,827 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Your last paragraph is silly. It lets you down.

    The trolley crisis in UHL has been a major problem for many years. They established a task force to solve it but still it tops the charts for trolley numbers every year. The blame here is on the minister for health and the government yet you ask what what MegamanBoo did to solve it. That's infantile. At least acknowledge we have a trolley crisis that the government cannot fix despite numerous fake promises.

    Your story about the housing crisis being caused by blocked planning is nonsense too. Remember we have been waiting for the FFG governments to reform planning laws since Mahon. They don't do reform. Any link to back up anything you say or do you just deflect to the opposition all the time? I voted for FG for 20 years and at least I have the cop on to know I was fooling myself.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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