General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

slegs · 04-12-2023 04:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121453649#Comment_121453649

Lo Celso didn't have to get out of his way. Haaland was like a baby running off in a huff.

doc_17 · 04-12-2023 06:43PM

City charged but Haaland avoids a personal charge, a cop out.

machiavellianme · 04-12-2023 07:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121450997#Comment_121450997

Joke it is

theoneeyedman · 04-12-2023 07:54PM

A fine, LOL. More crooked cash for the EPL, getting a slice of City's pop money.

There is a quote I heard that 'if the punishment for a crime is a fine, then that law only applies to the lower classes' or something similar.

All the top EPL teams and especially City would carry around those fines in their ass pocket (metaphorically) and a fine of 10-30-50 k won't even be noticed, hardly a days wages for one of their fullbacks.

happyoutscan · 04-12-2023 07:59PM

It's a cop out.

The FA are terrified of City.

Infoseeker1975 · 04-12-2023 08:25PM

Comparing it to VVD who got an extra game suspension and a 100k fine, it would be helpful if they published the criteria to be charged and why Haaland was not charged. If his reaction is acceptable then all players should be allowed to behave that way.

theoneeyedman · 04-12-2023 08:37PM

Read earlier it's the third such charge against City in 12 months, so the previous punishments are obviously working as a deterrent......

theoneeyedman · 04-12-2023 08:57PM

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-has-won-broadcast-rights-to-show-record-number-of-premier-league-matches-in-new-four-year-deal-13023003

Another number TV seal for the EPL. Details are slim enough, buy talks about more games and more coverage, and probably more money overall for the clubs.

I watch the EPL, but it's having a huge impact on competition in. European football. Few clubs across Europe can compete with even the smallest clubs like Bournemouth or Brighton idld they set their sights on a player. It's no wonder they are looking to jump to an expanded Champions League or even a Super League - this EPL is already a super league in all but name.

Heighway61 · 04-12-2023 08:58PM

Anyone see the documentary Stasi FC? It's about BFC Dynamo in the former east Germany who became state backed in the 70s. They won the title 10 years in a row from 1978 to 1988.

After the fall of the wall the state backing disappeared and they suffered consecutive relegations until they were out of the league and went bankrupt. They are back now playing in the fourth division.

You just never know what's going to happen.

Fitz* · 04-12-2023 08:58PM

So much for the whole 'respect' campaign for referees when Haaland was up roaring in the referees face, and then also Kovacic too, and can get away with it. Neither were captain either.

The PL really do pick and chose when to implement their guidelines. No consistency.

thebaz · 04-12-2023 11:08PM

The under-achieving Manchester United galacticos throwing another manager under the bus, with sky reporting he has lost half the dressing room, I feal for Manchester United supporters as we had the same, until Dyche rolled up his sleeves, we are far from great, but we're putting in a shift which is a change.

Mushy · 04-12-2023 11:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455041#Comment_121455041

Ederson came up fm the box to be involved, it was in the semi circle....zero point in fining clubs.

New TV deal though, just what everyone wanted, more Micah Richards

retalivity · 04-12-2023 11:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455642#Comment_121455642

Like Mussolini and the trains, right on time

The Moist Buddha · 04-12-2023 11:40PM

De Gea to Newcastle

giveitholly · 04-12-2023 11:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455642#Comment_121455642

Ten Hag has created a lot of the problems that are at the club as well and can't be absolved of blame either. He is there nearly a season and a half now and and no one can say what sort of a game plan he is trying to implement or what tactics he wants the players to carry out. Some of the players he wanted at the club and got(Onana,Amrabat,Anthony to name three) have been very questionable.

He threw Harry Maguire under the bus when he thought he was off to West ham,yet he is one of the few doing a shift for the club at the moment.

If rumours are to be believed,Rashford is leading this unrest amongst some players against Ten Hags training methods,yet Ten Hag sanctioned a new contract for him.

McFly85 · 05-12-2023 08:20AM

While Ten Hag hasn’t handled some situations well this season(dealing with Sancho, wanting Greenwood back in), it’s another example of player power in action at United.

Every time something goes wrong they seem happy to down tools, let the manager take the flak every week in front of the cameras and just coast along until the new guy is in.

Major clearout of the older players needed.

El Gato De Negocios · 05-12-2023 08:28AM

🤣🤣🤣🤣

pjohnson · 05-12-2023 09:10AM

Knew Haalands face looked familiar

Fitz* · 05-12-2023 10:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455814#Comment_121455814

IMO, it's not a coincidence that there is a leak of players being unhappy at the manager, just after there is an uptick in criticism in the media of Rashford.

He's been part of the squad that has got LVG, Jose, OGS, Rangnick sacked but somehow does not get grouped in with Pogba, Lingard, Martial etc when talking of 'bad eggs'. His body language and laziness is amongst the worst in the squad this season. That 'performance' against Newcastle was chronic. He didn't try a leg.

bucketybuck · 05-12-2023 10:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121456135#Comment_121456135

If ever there was a player that needed to be publicly told to **** off it is Jadon Sancho, I'd say there is a long list of managers who wanted to do the same. I see quotes from Matic this morning just reinforcing what everybody else knows, that Sancho is an unprofessional waster.

Ten Hag has made plenty of mistakes but I take no issue with how he handled Sancho. It will really stick in United fans throats when Ten Hag gets sacked and that waster strolls back into the dressing room, probably late as usual.

giveitholly · 05-12-2023 11:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121456705#Comment_121456705

Not disagreeing with you about Sancho but that is not the moment or major reason that will cost(looks more than likely at this stage) Ten Hag his job. If Ten Hag had been better at his job,like trying to implement a game plan and not signing players from his own club who are not good enough,he could of told utd to sell sancho in January/next summer. He would of had plenty of credit in the bank for this to happen.

Look at klopp when he came into Liverpool,Sahko was a known messer and not the best disciplined but he played him away until Sahko fooked up one final time during pre season training and Sahko was shown the door

thebaz · 05-12-2023 11:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455814#Comment_121455814

Rashford certainly looked like he was leading the revolt at the weekend, with his effort - but its always the managers fault with this group of under-achievers , effort should be the bare minimum

doc_17 · 05-12-2023 11:38AM

Sakho was also a poor player, and that’s the main reason Klopp was happy to see him mess up.

I see Utd have banned journalists from the Manchester Evening News from attending their press conference today. That never ends well.

jacool · 05-12-2023 12:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455694#Comment_121455694

webuyanyleague.com

IncognitoMan · 05-12-2023 12:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121456779#Comment_121456779

What style of play do you believe ETH should be implementing with a team that includes Maguire, Lindelof, AWB, Dalot, McT, Rashford etc..

What style do you think those players are capable of playing at a high level and winning enough points to get CL?

Klopp got rid of Sahko but he also had time to build out his team with a very good football team above him helping with the squad building.

Remember Klopp first 3 finishes at Liverpool were 8th, 4th and 4th.

Arteta finished 8th twice.

It takes time to rebuild and that's with clubs who have competent people above the manager working on targets

IncognitoMan · 05-12-2023 12:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121456891#Comment_121456891

Fergie banned journalists who made it their business to write rubbish about the club all the time.

It's a move ETH should have made from the start.

For a decade now bad journalists have been able to make a very handsome living by writing rubbish about Utd. It's time their access was cut.

Fitz* · 05-12-2023 12:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121457092#Comment_121457092

North Korea style censorship!

That'll teach those pesky players who leaked bad stories to the media!

giveitholly · 05-12-2023 12:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121457077#Comment_121457077

Put it another way,what style of football should he be playing with Malacia,Martinez,Casemiro,Erikson,Amrabat,Mount,Anthony,Hoijlund? These are all players that have been signed under his tenure and surely he should be implementing a game plan with this core of players and filling in the gaps with the players you mentioned until he has the chance to get rid of them.

You mentioned Rashford,ten Hag was quite happy for him to sign a new contract and now it seems as if rashford could end up being the player to cost him his job. Why didn't Ten Hag sell him and use the money to buy a striker that will play for the team or at least put in a shift and work his ass off on the field?

Ten Hag won a trophy and got champions league football with "these" players last season and there wasn't half the noise coming from fans and pundits. Suddenly things are a bit rough and it's all the players fault again without looking at the failures the manager.

You mentioned klopp,he brought in a game plan and stuck with it even though he didn't have the players he required for it to be successful at the start,but everyone could see what he was trying to do. And there was progress each season.Finished 8th the first season(only came in October of that season). 4th the following season,4th again with a champions league final appearance is progress in my eyes.

NITRO95 · 05-12-2023 01:08PM

I'm sure any Liverpool/City/Arsenal/neutral fan posting about how ETH needs to be sacked is coming from a totally 100% sincere position

giveitholly · 05-12-2023 01:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121457224#Comment_121457224

As a Liverpool fan I am trying to look at it as objectively as possible,all I see is a majority of fans and pundits now turning and putting all the blame on the players yet again. But Ten Hag seems to be absolved of blame by the majority again. Now in fairness there are a few in the utd thread questioning his tactics and transfers which is fair imo. Remember this is the manager who wanted Greenwood back in the squad. Would I as a Liverpool fan like to see him sacked? No because I just think he is not a very good manager

General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

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