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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    So was I, up to about 30% - then it went 'Rate the difficulties 1-6 that migrants experience in...'

    So in migrant group 1, the difficulties are xxx, and in migrant group 2, the difficulties are yyy - At that point I bailed out

    Joe is either about to head up Mensa, or he just has the one oar in the water



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    I can't get past Progress: 29% part no matter how I input a rate a mark between one to six. The questions so far would be make you think it was for NGOs anf their friends answering

    "Your universe has no meaning to them.
    They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,658 ✭✭✭baldbear


    I work with people from Nigeria to China. Poland to Kerry.

    I don't care where anyone is from in this country as long as they come here legally,work and don't break the law.

    If you come from a safe country or "lose" your documents I automatically think you are pulling a fast one and are an economic migrant or have something to hide.

    If you commit a violent crime whilst in an asylum centre you should have your asylum application rejected. We have enough of our own criminals.

    I'd love to see the figures of people who are turned down for asylum, appeal and then get accepted.

    It feels to me like the whole world knows we are a soft touch.

    I am sick of the right and left shouting at each other.

    Where are the reasonable people within our elected representatives?

    People from warzones we should be looking after. Chancers should be kicked out. (I'd love to kick out the Irish chancers too)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Pronto63


    Everyone should complete this. It isn’t entirely relevant but it is a chance to have your voice heard.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Just in case this was the issue, you're to rank these particular ones in order 1st to 6th (not assign a score of 1-6 where duplicate values might exist)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭rgossip30




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,675 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Sounds like a great idea, guarantee these 155 IPAs will be all single males in their twenties, being planted in the back end of nowhere with nothing to do.

    "A few weeks back, I met with concerned residents in Dromohair when the Department wrote informing them that 155 IP [international protection] applicants would arrive in their village," she said.

    "I contacted the department asking for support for a village that has no community centre, whose national school has an emergency application in for two additional classrooms, where they are fundraising for decent surface for their pitch, and where their medical centre is already chock-a-block full."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23


    Jaysus… though the wording and tone from O’Gorman doesn’t help. The whole thing is a shitshow.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    People travelling to set up illegal road blocks and stir fear amongst the local community. We are already seeing it around the country. Be it East Wall, Fermoy, Dromahair or Dublin City Centre the same small group are spreading their bile and misinformation and causing trouble for locals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,131 ✭✭✭malinheader


    What's worse is some spreading bile and disinformation about the locals and what is happening in these communities wouldn't you say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    This is all very sustainable - a load of scumbags kicked off in Dublin so nobody question any of this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    But the IPAs never even arrived in the town. Was this just the usual social media disinformation? It doesn't sound like Dromohair has seen any new arrivals, even since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭dmakc


    A meeting of Manorhamilton Municipal District heard that councillors had received an email from he Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (DCEDIY) confirming that beds were being provided for people seeking refugee status in Ireland - 124 for families and 31 beds for single men.

    https://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/home/1354560/call-to-delay-arrival-of-155-refugees-in-dromahair.html



  • Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    it’s grand to put Asylum Seekers into tents for the winter, but can’t build a log cabin for yourself on your land if you’re homeless & council won’t help!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    "Where are the reasonable people within our elected representatives?"

    They are busy labelling anyone with modest & reasonable reservations as 'far right'. The irony of this is that the state itself is the one becoming more authoritarian on these matters!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    RTE have been covering what happened. Apparently, some clown put up a malicious post on social media on Friday afternoon that refugees were on the way later that evening - they weren't (planning permission to accommodate them hadn't even been secured yet). The latest is that there may be refugees at some point in coming months, but only after consultation and agreement with the local community as to the numbers and the process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Your comment re planning permission is untrue.They are accommodated in Hotels ,Hostels,B&Bs etc all over Ireland without any extra planning permission required.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There is a specific legal / planning issue re. Dromahair apparently and that is why refugees cannot move in at the moment (and it still hasn't been sorted out). But they also say refugees won't be moved in without full consultation and agreement with the local community. One suggestion that has been made is that only half the number of allocated refugees might go there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,545 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    The 950-1000 going to rural Wicklow are all going into to be built cabins.

    Not to mention change of use in the case of Electric Picnic's tents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    "we all need to reflect on how a country with our resources" cannot accommodate the constant stream of refugees/economic migrants/ipa's according to Nick Henderson from his lofty perch



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,177 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    They are saying now they want to put migrants in places "without tensions". Surely that's only spreading the issues? Places without tensions might see tensions grow. There is a chaotic feeling about the whole thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Part of the problem though is that, if Boards were representative of the population, then absolutely nobody is far right, absolutely nobody is racist, absolutely nobody is xenophobic and absolutely nobody is ignorant. We acknowledge that all these things do exist in our society, but according to Boards it's next to impossible to find anyone who actually harbours any such opinions and those constantly and obsessively musing over immigration and the behaviour of immigrants are always and exclusively simply concerned citizens.

    When people find themselves saying "how dare you call me [one of those things], I'm certainly not!" ... I think to myself, well, maybe you actually are. Or maybe you (not you directly) harbour certain components of those views and haven't really critically thought about whether they are based on far rightism or any other ism or phobia — but apparently nobody does, it's all sincere concern 24/7.

    I mean, Leo Varadkar is publicly stating that Ireland is at a point where its ability to host refugees is now at its capacity limit for hosting refugees. He doesn't get called far right or racist or xenophobic — why? Why is it only the people who seem to obsess over the race, culture, religion, nationality etc of refugees who get called all the labels? Is it beyond the realms of the imagination that sometimes they are actually simply guilty of the isms/phobias?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    No legal/planning issue whatsoever.It is in exactly the same situation as all other accommodation providers all over Ireland.I live not far from there.It is completely insane to consider housing any amount of refugees in the village.No school places,doctor availability,transport non existent. Ridiculous proposal no matter how much to try to justify it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    Shinner on Clare Byrne earlier from Leitrim and no change was the mantra.people that think the shinners in government next time are going to stop this nonsense are going to be in for a rude awakening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,471 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015



    unbelievable and disgusting, who do they think they are? racism and sexism simple as. They dont want single males there according to Harkin, because dont you know single males are all murderers. 🤦‍♂️

    Not a hope would Harkin ever get my vote after that. if 200 Irish people from Cork were moved to dromahair, no one living there would care but seeing as they aren't irish lets all pretend we care that there is no community centre lol.


    "concerned residents" = Racists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭dmakc


    When you consider that 60% of those arriving are destroying their documentation (why do this if you're sincere?), that equates to roughly 93 bogus AS being dumped into this village with no services to accommodate such an increase in numbers.

    You don't have to look far and wide to see the trouble that's brewing within these IPA centres elsewhere, or the hassle local residents are experiencing as a result of accommodating said AS.

    The government are also displaying bad faith in these situations. They have no long term plan and Killarney has shown that if you give this government an inch, they'll take a mile.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    I mean, ya... we were all told last year that all men are a danger so doesn't this follow ??



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