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Car dealer using Mapfre warranty.

  • 23-11-2023 12:28PM
    #1
    Posts: 0


    Hi,


    I bought a car from a dealer, Main dealer of Opel/ Vauxhall in my area, and when I bought the car I was told it has a 12-month warranty. The warranty I was given was by a company called MapFree. At the time I wasn't aware of who they were or what they were, and thought it was incase I was away from the dealership and needed repair.


    I am now having an issue with the car I bought, 202 2.0ltr Insignia, and the dealership, who are about 650m away from me, or saying I have to go through Mapfre.


    The fun starts here! Mapfre only covers certain elements, and has limits on this.


    Does anyone know my legal rights in terms of buying from a dealership with a 12-month warranty, to now be pawned off? Had I known more about this I would have saved myself 4k and bought from a guy on the side of the road !!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,912 ✭✭✭User1998


    When did you buy the car? They are not required to give you a 12 month warranty by law.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    I bought the car in June 2023, so 6 months.

    It was part of the sale that it came with a 12 month warranty, and honestly, it was a big part of why I went with a dealer and not a donedeal ad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭Dave_D_Rave


    Yes I experienced this previously complete pain in the a**. Unfortunately there is probably not much you can do in terms of recourse.


    This is tactic often used by 2nd car dealers essentially your warranty is farmed off to third party company who as you said above only cover certain items. So its very much a case of buyer beware.



    Only thing you can do that I can see is to start tagging them on social media. Bad press can sometimes be help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭Moanin


    How long ago did you buy the car?

    From my understanding the dealer has to legally give you 3 x months engine and gearbox warranty.

    Are the issues that you are having covered with this period?

    If not are they not covered in mapfre ? Have you been in contact with them?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hi,


    So when I bought the car, which is a brand that the main dealer sells and is the agent for in my area, it was advertised and the condition of the sale was a 12 month warranty.

    I bought it in June, so six month ago and have now issues. I did ring Mapfre and they said to bring it back to the garage who ironically is thier repair site, but its only covered for some elements.

    Its just a strange one, and I would not have bought from a main dealer had I known this was the situation



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,912 ✭✭✭User1998


    Yeah but even an independent dealer will have limitations on their warranty. They told you it was Mapfre and you agreed to it.

    Why don’t you bring it to your local Mapfre repair centre first and see if they can fix it free of charge? And if not you can contact the supplying dealer to see if they’ll help out?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gas thing is, the mapfre agent is the dealer !!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    All guarantees have limitations. What issues are you having?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    I had an aircon condenser replaced and regas done on a mapfre warranty at a main dealer.

    it wasn't done at the car dealers (they were small and couldn't do it anyway)

    depends on the warranty sold I rang mapre and it was covered. I paid nothing.

    this was 4 years ago

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Mapfre warranty is a disaster. Ive posted multiple times here about it but the search function is fecked on this site these days.I actually thought I still had a copy of their Ts&Cs here but it must be on my home email.

    They cover very little. For example you do a Turbo they wont cover fresh oil, or the oil pipes. - really stupid stuff like that. Wont cover bushes if you are doing a wishbone and theyre a separate part. Really stupid stuff.

    OP whats up with the Insignia?


    And why are you claiming Mapfre - Its probably just out of manufacturers warranty being a 202 and Opel arent bad at goodwill claims especially if the car was sold by an Opel dealer.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I didnt think to ring Opel.

    No idea the issue yet, car is going into limp mode in about 5 mins of driving, so it might be a turbo or pipes. I cant visually see anything, but then I could be looking at a pipe full of milkshakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,141 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    those cars are a disaster waiting to happen, thats why the price is good second hand



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I had thought buying from a dealer with a 12 month warranty was a safer bet to be fair!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,326 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Work with mapfire first- depending on the situation /issue they might sort it as good as any other reputable dealer guarantee would - if it’s out of scope then you can still rely on consumer legislation no matter what the limitations of the guarantee are. It might mean a trip to small claims court or at least a notification in order to get them to the table but first step is talk and enquire and reason with them if refused ultimately and then assert yourself if that doesn’t work and exercise your consumer rights

    you currently don’t know the issue so the only first step is to get it assessed first



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,141 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    What made you go insignia in the first place?

    i mean they are a good looking car, but you need to do a bit of research first

    the others have already said no warranty is a catch all

    find out what it is first



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hi,

    Yes I did research, the dealership has a solid 4.5 out of 5, its the main dealer for Opel in my area, insignia I have always thoguht of as a good car, I have had two in the past, Never had any previous warranty issues like this. The way the Mapfre thing was described to me was an extra cover incase I was down the country or away from the dealership that I could get it brought to any garage.,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭goochy


    If the dealer not offering an opel used car warranty scheme like most main dealers do ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,326 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I bought a different make car in the last year but the dealer spun that line on me about dealer network- I pushed him on it and eventually got him to admit that it was only his garage that would work on items under guarantee without a fee - sales people will say anything to make the deal



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I had thought it was TBH, i only brielfy heard the Mapfre name and it was explained like " its just an extra warranty we have for if you are out of town and there is an issue, but there wont be any"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Squatman


    a few comments, is you 12 month warranty with the dealer, and you have an additional warranty with Mapfre?

    IMO the Mapfre warranty isn't worth the paper its written on, with step-back cover due to mileage.

    if you think you have a turbo problem, then stop driving it, replacing a turbo is ok, replacing an engine is not.

    2 lessons to be learned.

    1. say no to mapfre warranty, and only deal with dealerships that will support it

    1. don't buy insignias! you can watch them depreciate in your driveway




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No.

    The warranty isn't with the dealer apparently..it's with mapfre. Dealer is saying that it's not that his issue. It's a mapfre warranty.

    This is despite the fact that mapfre are sending me to the same guy.


    I like the insignia 😄. I have had less reliable cars, by far



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,912 ✭✭✭User1998


    Mapfre have authorised repairers. The Opel garage is an authorised repairer. They diagnose the fault and notify Mapfre of the issue and its up to Mapfre whether they’ll cover it or not. You can go to another authorised repairer if you wish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,892 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Has the manufacturers warranty run out? I guess so if its a 3 year warranty.

    Mapfre can be hit and miss but the small print is usually the killer.

    As an example, one of.the warranties states it doesn't cover electrical connectors. I mean that is a joke.

    Anyway, surely you take the car to the dealer that's 650m away. Get the issue diagnosed. They will get on to mapfre. If covered. Happy days.

    If not covered, it's time to put pressure on opel dealer to seek goodwill from opel as the car is not long outside of original warranty.

    Post edited by mickdw on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Whatwicklow


    Consumer protection is with the dealer, as much as they may want, the dealer can't sub contract your rights to anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,912 ✭✭✭User1998


    True but will consumer protection cover a 4 year old car that was purchased 6 months ago?



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Its probably the seal between the intercooler pipe and the turbo or intercooler. Known issue on them and if I remember right there was possibly a recall on them to replace the seals.

    Or else an accelerator pedal failing - used to sell loads of them.


    I posted something about them a few years back.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057972681/reliability-of-new-model-insignia/p3



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Casr is 3 years old, its a 202, First reg was April 2020.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks so much ! I will say it.

    Its gone in now anyway, it was akward to say the least!

    I also didnt know I could go elsewhere, thought you go where they tell you :)



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