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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,218 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    And as the poster you quoted, dare you to go on strike, save even more money, don't think anyone would even notice it and then even more reason to slash more at rte



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,468 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Prime time tonight.

    Miriam talking about rte money crisis and overpaid staff, with no shame whatsoever

    250k to appear on the radio once a week for an hour or so, and introduce 2 pieces to camera on PT for maybe a handful of mins

    And they wonder why they are in trouble. Or David McCullough reading the 6 1 news for 195k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Windowsnut


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    Cheese or snow???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,691 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    RTe interviewing themselves discussing the trauma of having to take a pay cut.

    Sadly, we all know it's the folks who genuinely had to take the hardest pay cuts who'll be cut like chaff. It'll be interesting to see how or if the pay cuts will be genuinely implemented.

    I remember a few months back Claire Byrne became 'emotional' (or as emotional as an automaton can get) on her radio show. I'd say she was crying because she knew a pay cut was on the way.

    They even interviewed Larry Bass... but failed to mention he used to be on the RTE board.

    Wasn't this the same guy who was whining that if the license fee wasn't increased, there'd be no Dancing with the Stars?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭jippo nolan




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,975 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    The best two channels were the +1 channels

    Especially watching sport on rte 2 +1


    How much could those channels actually cost to run?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why is it that, in the past two decades, the producer of Sunday night entertainment on RTÉ 1 has to be either ShinAwil (which it has been for most of the past 20 yeaars) and Tyrone Productions? Why can no other independent producer get a look-in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,218 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,218 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    But it's all changing now to independent producers, oh wait..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    That's Larry Bass ShinAwil and Moya Doherty's Tyrone Productions.

    Mad how the same names keep cropping up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Kevin Bakhurst was on Newstalk this morning being interview by Ciara Kelly.

    I have to say, the man gave a solid interview, he answered every question well.

    He clearly has a vision and REAL plan for RTE.

    I genuinely hope he does well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    You would hope that he is the genuine article... but will RTÉ/Unions break him before he can fix RTÉ?

    as ultimately any 'fixing' that takes place is going to mean a lot of freeloaders & deadwood management getting the chop, or having their obscene salaries chopped, so naturally they will try to block him at every single turn, and make his plan nigh on impossible to implement...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Catherine Martin apparently signalling the government's determination to make a call on a long-term funding model for RTE before the end of its term.

    Emphasising she believes direct excequer funding should be on the table. Is that a straw in the wind I wonder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Direct exchequer funding is the easiest at the moment politically as a new tax would go down very badly.

    It does carry a lot of long term risk. It would make RTE beholden to the department and charges of at least passive influence over news reporting would be easy to make. It would also mean that it would be a fund to be squeezed during lean economic times.

    There is no easy political choice as all carry risk.

    My bet is that there will be some kind of media charge that other media companies, web and print will have access to as well as RTE. Government will likely look for cross party support for this.

    If every media outlet gets some sweeties the thinking will be that opposition won't be able to mass. The bitter pill will be swallowed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


     It would make RTE beholden to the department and charges of at least passive influence over news reporting would be easy to make.

    But that would apply to any government, arguably to an SF-led one most of all (in the sense RTE would be watched most closely for signs of such bias under an SF government)

    It would also mean that it would be a fund to be squeezed during lean economic times.

    Don't think this is likely to materialise unless the government of the day is looking to show in a performative way how 'fiscally responsible' it is, which Irish governments never are in my experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,570 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    We thought that with Forbes. An outsider who actually had a relevant and impressive CV.

    The first outside DG in RTEs history.

    Kevin is basically a journalist and editor and has worked for RTE before.

    I also hope he does well do but I doubt it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,911 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


     It would make RTE beholden to the department and charges of at least passive influence over news reporting would be easy to make.

    Governments already control RTE's funding. They've refused to allow a licence fee increase for years. They can agree (or not) RTE to hive off services like orchestras and keep that funding, they can agree (or not) to allow advertising on new services like RTE News channel, they can change how much programming RTE must provide for free to TG4, etc. etc. etc.

    Basically everything except ad income is either provided by or controlled by the government.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    I used to pay the TV licence but stopped when the TUBS thing blew up. It would only be going to pay back taxes etc at this point.

    Will it ever be collected through Revenue ? I believe not. Just another water charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,247 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I'm a resident and citizen. I pay tax. I pay the tv licence. I brought a new tv some years ago and made a conscious devision to not have saorview and not want or have to watch rte.

    We have Roku and watch Netflix/ Disney through it. Also DVD box sets. That's it.

    Not missing anything on rte and never will.

    I'll pay the tv licence mainly because I have no wish to go to court

    But I begrudge them every cent. Wouldn't if they were worth it but they will never be no matter the promises made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Having seen the reports of funding on the News and articles online, my personal view is that RTE should be let go to the wolves. If it is THAT important that the government want to give them 50million a year of tax payers money (despite license fees, advertising costs, revenue for RTE Guide(which must make a loss) ) I think it time that privatisation happens.

    In the current climate of streaming/foreign channels/internet channels etc., how many people actually watch RTE?

    I know I am abroad but I never watch RTE despite having access to it.

    Even when home it never appears on my TV or my families TV's.

    With all the changes coming through in Broadcasting, why should tax payers fork out an additional 50M a year on top of licensing to pay for what is basically an arm of the government, that is increasingly broadcasting to a smaller and smaller audience?

    I thought double taxation was illegal? TV License AND More Government (tax payers) funding?..;)

    Let it go, sell it off and let it sink or swim.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,976 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    None of the established pollitical parties would contemplate such an approach. They are all four-square behind 'public service broadcasting'...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,911 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    RTE is a poor PSB but that is in no way an argument that we should not have a PSB.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,558 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It uses a hybrid PSB/commercial broadcaster model. It isn't really a PSB. If it was simple a PSB then most of the recent trouble, and lot of historical trouble, would not have happened.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Given that RTÉ had an obvious unfair advantage over independent theatre producers, why did the competition authority not intervene on the grounds of the Toy Show Musical being an abuse of supremacy in the market under EU law?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,911 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Because they knew they'd make a bollix of it? 😆

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ did not just fail because of the licence fee. This idea that is going around that things would be different because RTÉ don't have to worry about the commercial side of things or that they are guaranteed an income.

    RTÉ clearly didn't know how much money they had, they were like a child at the cookie jar.

    "I will have one Mammy won't notice, ten minutes later, a sure I will take another one, who's going to notice 2 gone... a sure I may as well finish the jar she'll be mad as hell that I eat some many at this stage in anycase".

    I don't see this culture changing. We don't live in their world.

    They get over 10k into their bank accounts every month and then dip their hand in for some car allowances.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Then why doesn't the government have the law changed to make sure that the culture in RTÉ is changed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It would mean work, easier just to give them the money they want.

    Really I don't understand peoples opposition to splitting the organization up, into smaller areas.

    It would mean the top person wouldn't be on as much money, that each of the resulting companies would have to live with in their means (much like TG4), while providing independent Journalism, choice for audiences and opertunities for producers / creatives.

    Its a win-win. IMO, but there is no doubt it would be hard work.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭political analyst




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,691 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Dee Forbes sent a medical certificate to the Dail Public Accounts Committee (PAC) this week to say she is still unfit to testify before them

    How long now?

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



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