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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭Bsharp


    Would be interested to know what the average is based on. We got quoted over 120k for a one stop shop upgrade to a 3 bed semi detached house.

    We already had brand new windows and doors which met the requirements.



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its a headline figure only, so not massively useful.

    What I'd love to see would be a breakdown based on existing BER rating to give a better idea.

    For example, if you get tested and it returns a rating of D, you can expect to spend between ____ & ___ to get to A rating. If you get tested and it returns a rating of B, you can expect to spend between ___ & ___, and so on.

    Doesn't mean every single upgrade would fall into those ranges, but would be a good indicator up front for people interested



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As I said previously, I think the flooding's we've seen already over the last few weeks are only the beginning




  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As good a reason as any to get rid of the gas cooker and switch to electric




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    If only everyone in Ireland switched to electric cookers it rain less



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    According to the Irish Times, it is 1,200 so about 2.6%. However what sort of catalogue of botch jobs does one need to chalk up to get deregistered..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,421 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Ok so for an extreme problem I give an extreme solution. If on the 1st January 2024 in this country we replaced every single ICE with an electric vehicle, changed the heating of every house in the country to heat pumps, killed off our entire cattle herd, went 100% wind for power generation that you could hand on your heart say the floods would reduce in 20 years time?

    If you can't then there's no point in proceeding with the current 50 times slower path to nowhere approach.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,700 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    It's what you and others continuously infer isn't it? Be good little green disciples and ER will reward us with sunshine, lollipop turbines and rainbows. Or are all your proposals just a hiding to nothing because we're too small to matter on a global scale?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You honestly don't think climate scientists haven't first considered the suns effects on climate?

    You're so hubristic if you think you've spotted a gaping hole in the centre of climate science

    Judith Curry doesn't publish anymore, she way prefers blogging and the climate change denial lecture circuit. More money and less risk of anyone challenging her claims or checking her for accuracy.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    Nono. You are seeing this all wrong. We ALL have to do our bit in the global battle against climate change and take responsibility for our actions. It is the biggest clearest present danger.

    Now is not the time for pesky calculations, cost- benefit analysis, objections, barriers, measurements etc. It is time for ACTION. Science is settled. No more debate.

    It is time for targets and compliance mechanisms. For overreaching, non democratic organisations to do their duty and save the people (and the planet) of themselves. To shut down dissent and ignore the Bjorn Lomborgs and scientists who dare to object who are by default the far right and oil lobby even if they're not. To give power/money to strongarm studies that support the alarmist narrative to make the 'consensus' even stronger and to halt and refuse funding for any opposite view.

    It really is pretty simple. The Earth is boiling, you know!🙄

    JUST.. STOP.. OIL. And everything will be fine..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    This year will be the hottest year globally in at least 125k years. Next year will likely be even hotter.

    But never let a good conspiracy theory get in the way of facts

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,700 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    That's amazing - but weren't about 100k years of that part of an ice age? Why start your data arbitrarily at the start of the last ice age? Why not go back an extra say 5-10k years - could it be because the global temperature was hotter than it is today during the last interglacial period and that doesn't suit your arguments?

    You wouldn't do that to us, would you? You wouldn't cherry pick your data to forward a narrative?



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe because before industrialization we were on a slow cooling trend back into the next glaciation.

    Scientist do actually study the climate not just guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    So you are saying that 125k years was slow cooling trend? 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    It goes like this: the greens have a habit of cherry picking their data while at the same time accusing the opposition of the very same thing. They have this trick down to a fine art. They deflect and highlight another section of their picked data to not having to answer pesky questions. (The greens HAVE to be right every time and wont/cant allow doubt to creep in. The opposition is usually fine with doubt. They are basing their arguments on levels of certainty that can vary which lies at the heart of science. In fact even the IPCC says so but not in the summery for policy makers/politicians.)

    It is what a good lawyer does. Make the jury look at something else that is presented to them instead of the shakey ground they stand on, character assassinate the witness, bribe the judge and starve the opposition of means to defend themselves..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Still way to go. We are nowhere near to what temperature used to be. Sorry, but end of the world is not going to happen any time soon. Not even in couple lifetimes, even if temperature increase few degrees.

    climateqa_global_surface_temps_65million_years_2480.png




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    May be of interest to some here..




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    For all climate alarmists who predict that end is near... Their "facts" are usually based on computer model predictions designed the way to conform narrative and loads of guessing.

    From New scientist:

    "First of all, it is worth bearing in mind that any data on global temperatures before about 150 years ago is an estimate, a reconstruction based on second-hand evidence such as ice cores and isotopic ratios. The evidence becomes sparser the further back we look, and its interpretation often involves a set of assumptions. In other words, a fair amount of guesswork.

    It is certainly true that Earth has experienced some extremes that were warmer than today, as well as much colder periods. In some cases the main factors that caused these past warm periods – and the ebb and flow of ice ages over recent millennia – are well understood, though not in all. Many of the details remain unknown."


    Yeah but, but, but, CO2, humans and cow shyet !!!



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  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We came out of the last ice age properly around 8-10k years ago. After a brief warm period as all the methane and CO2 was released from permafrost things started cooling. The trend would have put us back into ice ago in around 10k years.

    We reversed that.

    Showing trend from millions of years ago just demonstrates that you don't understand the things that causes climate to change - like geography changing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭roosterman71




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    If you believe that we reversed coming ice age by increasing temperature by 2 degrees then I do have a bridge to sell to you. The same apply for belief that end is near if temperature increase for another few degrees.

    As for your settled science well, science is never settled unless you have a financial interest in it.



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  • Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Damn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    We are in an interglacial period, technically still in an ice age, although it is likely humans will do enough to push the earth out of that equilibrium and prevent the next (colloquial) ice age from happening.

    Nobody 'arbitrarily' picked 125k years as if to cherry pick data. That is absolutely not how cherry picking works.

    The data shows that no time in the past 125k years was hotter globally than this year i2023)

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You've heard it here first. Patnor wants us to alter the climate to the point more favourable to large cold blooded reptiles than warm blooded mammals.


    Follow the money, Patnor is in the pockets of big dinosaur

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Says who?

    The El Nino is likely to continue and we're likely to see even warmer conditions next year than we saw this year

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I hope your bridge is about 40 metres above sea level because not only are we countering the cooling of the milankovicj cycle, we're in danger of warming the world enough to melt many of the the glaciers and ice sheets that survived the previous interglacial periods

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    my house is 90m asl . I'm allright Jack. might need a bigger boat.

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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