Israel/Palestine Thread

US will strongarm other western countries such as ours to take the Palestinians. What that Israeli minister said about Ireland wasn't an off the cuff remark, I'm sure secret discussions have been going on between US and their client state regarding this.

I do not endorse illegal west bank settlements. I've clearly stated that before.

I posted today that Gazans might actually be willing to become a part of Egypt if this was acceptable to all other parties.(I know I would in their place-Gazexit!)

Who knows how this will end up if,and hopefully when Israel has destroyed the Hamasian infrastructure in Gaza.

Hopefully Netanyahu will be history soon and that may be one obstacle out of the way of some kind of an accommodation between those of the two sides that are looking for a peaceful settlement.

You think the wars that the Arabs fought to destroy Israel, or the blatant anti-Semitism that both Europeans or Arabs displayed has nothing to do with Hamas and its vow to destroy Israel and cleanse the area of Jews.

Facts are an inconvenient truth.

Facts like 4,000 dead children at the hands of the IDF?

That's really what these deflections to 'who started the war between Oceania and Eurasia' are really about, ignoring what's happening right now and what is being condoned right now.

The 2 parties agreed to the Oslo Accords, -- let me say that again, Oceania and Eurasia agreed to end war. We're well past who started it.

The man who didn't want that though orchestrated Rabin's assassination, propped up Hamas as his scapegoat and is bombing kids, and has been in political control nearly that whole time

The Ditch is gone.

1. Jews enjoyed relative peace in Palestine up until the early 1900's
2. The Zionist movement saw an increasing number of white, European colonists who happened to be Jewish arriving in Gaza, which resulted in an increase in antisemitism
3. After WW2 a very large number of white, European refugee colonists who happened to be Jewish arrived in Palestine which saw a further increase in antisemitism.
4. Those white European colonist who happen to be Jewish then persecuted, terrorised, killed and drove millions of Palestinians from there homes, which further resulted in a rise in antisemitism.
5. According to a great many posters here, the only reason the Palestinians are against the white European colonists in their land is because they are antisemitic.
6. If Xi simply converts the Chinese population to Judaism then he will have a complete free hand at Taiwan and can counter all accusations of aggression with antisemitism, he even has the right of return story from 1949 instead of 2000 years ago.

Pushback from Twitter's moderators maybe? Looks like they have rubbed somebody up the wrong way anyway.

Well, I guess once Jews knew their place, the Arabs were always going to be in the majority and supremacy. But once the migration of Jews occurred, resentment and Anti-Semitism exploded.

You also have to look in the wider context of nationalism, Islam and the fusing of the two. The Muslim Brotherhood for example are a reactionary far-right group. Like in the rest of the world, Nationalism exploded in the Middle East after WWI and the fall of empires, but it was very much a right-wing, Islamic-based nationalism in today's sense, certainly not a liberal, diverse-based nationalism.

True to a certain extent, but you know what I am talking about.

We are discussing ethnic cleaning in the current situation in Gaza, not elsewhere or at any time. It was IDF's obligation under international humanitarian law to advise people to move to the south of Gaza as they had intended to heavily attack the north. That's not ethnic cleansing!

Did you finish reading to the bottom of my post before responding, or are we just going to ignore what's happening now, let it ferment for the next 74 years as well, and come back to it then and say 'well... we're discussing the current situation now'

As if it's all some big game to disacknowledge how long Israel has been at this ethnic cleanse.