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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,100 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Thanks I’ll try that.


    it’s a shame as Thomas street is reasonably pleasant to cycle along

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Thanks for posting, good piece. Reading the initial dangerous driving report (link posted in above article) I note she has an update that upon appeal the conviction was reduced to "careless driving", 5 penalty points and a €500 fine. Goes to show it's near impossible to get a dangerous driving conviction in ireland.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,857 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I don't mean to sound like an old fart but the Tiktok and all these 'post videos for likes' type platforms really are an absolute scourge when it comes to things like this.

    At very least, the perpetrators are the masters of their own demise by posting the video... still doesn't bring the poor dude back though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Not fun. I got a bee stuck behind my sunglasses coming off the Galibier last year - thankfully not the steeper bit of it, but still doing about 60 admiring the view. I did get stung, and to this day have no idea how I managed to stop and didn't go off the edge/over the bars or come to some other horrible form of cropper

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,214 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Sickening. Only positive is since it happened in the US and a former police chief was the victim, the scrotes will face actual justice and not the soft touch treatment they'd receive here.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Yeah but but but you should've been in the cycle lane...


    And I bet you weren't wearing hi-viz either.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    I agree but in this instance it looks like the cyclist was indeed well into the 'lane' - at least halfway across in the hatched area.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    if he hadn't he was stupid as traffic could presume he was exiting.

    Nope. You don't overtake on a roundabout. The driver didn't misunderstand signals or lack of - the driver was just an ignorant prick who didn't care about anyone else!

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I've seen drivers who ignore hand signals and I'd make a fsirly safe assumption that this driver is no different. They don't care because why should they; they're not going to be punished for being a selfish prick on the road

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭JMcL


    I haven't seen any statement that he wasn't signalling. Be that as it may, while I'll personally always try to use hand signals entering or on a roundabout when safe to do so. being able to take evasive action and/or brake to avoid a stupid prick will always trump waving my hands at said stupid prick who will almost certainly ignore them anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Also, if I come up behind someone on their phone I let a roar at them to get off their phones. I didn't think they'd be able to hear me but they can. I have a couple on video, I must put them up here

    While I'd be all for this myself, just beware you're not leaving yourself open to GDPR issues by doing so. I stand to be corrected on this, but I think there was a kerfuffle several years back involving the Guards objecting to public posting of photos of cars parked blocking cycle lanes - not sure if it was Boards related or elsewhere

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The only point at which posting of number plates becomes a privacy issue is if that number plate is being linked with a known individual/ celebrity. Which is why they get blurred out when celeb cars are shown on the news.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭JMcL


    I do remember this now, but unfortunately it may have changed in the interim. According to https://www.gdprregister.eu/gdpr-faq/ "What is personal data?":

    It can be anything related to the person: a name, a phone number, an e-mail address, a photo or a video, an address or location, a number of the bank account, a car registration plate, social media account etc.

    I think this is a bit dumb myself since you need knowledge of the individual or access to the vehicle DB to link the two, but I think it's been deemed so on the basis of a test case. There is of course the getout that you can handle personal data from the point of view of reporting a crime, so the Godot like portal will be in line with this. If however on the basis of this you posted photos of a car being someplace it shouldn't to a public forum and had some dick owner with the brass neck to get lawyered up and challenge them, you could end up in bother.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    You never know - it could be "Judge" Martin Nolan who would find against the cyclist just because!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭JMcL



    That's an utter shocker. What's particularly bad is that the truck is already passing 2 cyclists on the other side who should have been visible to the bell-end in the red car. The truck should really have been giving more space as well which would have closed the door if done in a timely manner and I suspect having left it too late MGIF had already started the manouever (the truck does swerve out later) - and there's an oncoming car. They need the book thrown at them

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭fiacha


    Question unrelated to the close pass, but would 50kmph be considered a safe speed to be travelling in those conditions ? Novice cyclist here, so genuinely don't know what kind of speeds experienced riders are comfortable with in poor weather.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,214 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    It's frustrating how little of a **** they give about private motorists in bus lanes. And then have the nerve to veto initiatives like cameras on buses on the basis of "it's our job to enforce". Not asking that they spend all their time on it but they could at least go after the low hanging fruit when it's dangled in their face. A good example is the bus lane on the Chapelizod road between Islandbridge and Parkgate Street. The 26 is regularly delayed by about 15 mins by bus lane blockers in the morning and I've often seen marked Garda cars just sitting there like idiots in the traffic jam for the same length of time when they could have used that time to hand out a few tickets and clear out the lane and get moving in the process.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭fiacha


    In relation to the first twitter post, given the guys comments and his belief that he was 100% correct to "marshall" the driver out of the bus lane I wouldn't be inclined to believe his version of the Gardai's response.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭fiacha


    A threat or advice ? I have no legal background so feel free to correct me, but would it be the case that once the video evidence is submitted along with a statement the Gardai are obliged to follow up on any other illegal acts that the footage shows ? The clip shows the driver is clearly in the wrong, but what else happened before that or how did the cyclist behave when they decided to block traffic and "marshall" the driver back out of the bus lane ?

    I'm sure the driver and their solicitor would insist that the cyclist be charged with any offences they may have committed in the full footage.

    Perhaps he was done the favor of being advised of the legal action he might face if the evidence was submitted, and given the choice of pursuing it or dropping it. Or maybe, as some have suggested he was threatened with retaliation for making the Gardai do their job. I've had limited experience with the Gardai in my life, but I've never been given the impression that they would rather make threats against me than do their duty.

    Just my 2 cents based on the info I saw in the linked post.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,100 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Well hopefully you’ve made him think about it a bit. What a dick.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,481 ✭✭✭cletus


    Is it just me, or is that video now no longer available

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,214 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I think it's a Cork thing especially though. I'm from Cork, moved to Dublin and bad enough as Dublin is, it's a lot easier to cycle here than Cork imo.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭fiacha


    If he changed his road positioning he would run out of footage and wouldn't be able to rage post on Twitter all week :D I'm all for highighting the poor and dangerous actions of drivers / cyclists / pedestrians that we all experience but many of the dedicated posters on Twitter seem to thrive on the attention and over react by aggressivly chasing drivers, getting into aguments with them etc. I've watched some of their video's (can't remember if it was the chap linked above) and they've been outright dangerous in their pursuit of the "offending" driver and seemed to care about nothing other than catching up and gettting into a confrontation. They will defend their "right" to do so in the comments and refuse to acknowledge that any of their own actions were dangerous. I think many of these posters make cyclists look just as bad as the drivers.

    You are spot on with the road positioning. I used to be guilty of sticking to the inside edge of the lane etc, but after getting knocked off on a roundabout a few months back I have started taking a much more assertive position on narrow roads / roundabouts and at junctions. It has made a noticeable difference with cars approaching from behind and also puts me in a better position to react to drivers pulling out in front of me. Roundabouts are still dodgy as 99% of people seem to have no idea how to navigate them :D.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    A few days ago, I saw this vid of a lad who cycles around London with his cat being knocked off by a moped rider. Rather than reprimand the moped rider, the police officer in the car behind could only suggest the victim wear a helmet...

    Now apparently after this went public, he is being told to kill himself...

    Some people really are vile!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,214 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    "Character"? Seems like a nice guy judging from his Instagram. Also disabled (not able to walk due to some muscle wasting issue) so reliant on the bike to get the dog out and about.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The bike is in the middle of the lane and moving away from stationary. He's not turning, he's just starting to move and a wobble should be expected. The moped tried to get through a gap which wasn't there and didn't allow the bike to start moving. Even if they were turning, you don't take your hand off the handlebars when pulling away, and you don't stand at the stop line with one arm out just so that a vehicle pulling up behind you at the junction knows your intentions. They should wait until the bike is moving before making any moves themselves.


    Moped entirely in the wrong going for a non existent gap.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The cat had absolutely nothing to do with what happened, it was just sitting in its basket and minding it's own business. It didn't cause the incident.

    The moped was approaching stationary traffic at a junction, and rather than stopping and waiting for the traffic in front to resume moving, they went through close passing a bike which was just beginning to move off. As a two wheeled vehicle themselves they should have been well aware that bikes are unstable at slow speeds and not attempted that move.

    I'm not seeing how any blame can be laid on the bicycle for them starting to move when it was their turn to do so.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    But, if the cyclist had given a hand signal or looked over his shoulder,

    A hand signal for what? They didn't change lane or turn. They veered slightly to the right but that can happen (especially if you turn your head to the right). The cyclist was hit from behind and no amount of shoulder looking will prevent a dipsh1t from hitting you especially with such short notice.

    the incident may have been avoided. That isn't victim blaming

    Victim blaming is exactly what it is!

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    They were moving off from a stop.


    How would they be indicating whilst pedalling away from a stand still? It was the first or possibly second turn of their pedals.


    Edit: and what would they be indicating for? They were going straight on.

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