Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Yeah I cant see how he gets the money to stay relevant until Nov next year

Ralph Nader also regarded as a factor in Gore v GW Bush in 2000.

2.9M votes country wide (about 2.7%) was impressive enough by a 3rd party candidate, but his biggest effect may have been in the ultimately decisive state of Florida. Bush won by >600, Nader polled 97K and his progressive/liberal/green agenda (by US, not European standards) would likely have split towards Al Gore in a pure 2-horse race.

Tech bros like him to be fair.

However yeah ultimately I don't know if he hurts either that much , Trumpers like him but why would they vote for him when their Messiah is right their....and while he has some name recognition with Dem's , I don't think the name is that relevant in 2023.

He takes the anti-fauci vote, and that's a fair contingent of Trump voters

Few Trump supporters care about that though bar hyper online people,Trump promised to lock up Hilary, build a wall and yeah that didn't work out and lost no support. Trump supporters for the most part are all in and simply don't care about his politics they are their for the show.

If political consistency mattered RDS would not be dead.

Those voters probably would lean RDS and to a lesser extent Haley in the primary wont like RFK though because for them he is to left wing. RDS got hammered from conservative media who normally fawn over him when he tried to play footsie with him on the vaccines.

I'd be worried from a Trump POV about a small percentage of RDS supporters sitting out the election, because the primary has been very ugly. Trump's team have sunk very low with Ron, some suggesting that even his wife faked cancer, obviously when Trump wins the primary they will likely make up but some of those supporters who like Ron for his conservative governing may not be on board.

It doesn't help either we have the crazy scenario of the house, where it seems the GOP congress members are more concerned about putting on a show and getting attention rather than the boring nitty and gritty governing.

However their is a million variable atm, Cornell West and no label crew also involved could cause havoc also.

He was neck and neck with Biden at this stage 4 years ago, and he was the incumbent. Yet Biden won, by trump's own definition, a landslide

The only polls that are any way relevant are state specific ones. And even then less than 6 months out from the election

Trump can most certainly win but a lot of the polls are drivel.

Sample sizes are very small and remember a lot of the polling is from nothing companies and those associated with Trump.

Look, its a bipartisan issue, some of the polling over the years in states where supposedly Collins was going to lose and I think their was ones which suggested Rubio was in trouble in red Florida in 2022?

A better barometer is the midterms and the fact the dems are constantly winning special elections in key states. Obviously their is numerous caveats, Trump's name not on the ballot and not an election year but they are more relevant than some very soft polls more than 12 months before the election.

https://newrepublic.com/post/175387/wsj-poll-showing-trump-biden-evenly-matched-trump-helped-pay

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4213712-democrats-keep-winning-special-elections-in-battleground-states/

Trump has already admitted that he made the decision about going ahead with the strategy. So even if he claims they were acting without his consent, the question is why did he not make that clear at the time?

We know he had meetings with her, so why not demand she cease her actions?