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Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Utterly shocking attack on the hospital by Israel but there will be no consequences they retain the full support of US and British imperialism and they know they can essentially do as they wish.

    No sanctions, no media black-out, no withdrawal of sport and cultural ties no economic isolation...



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,419 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Some are saying it could be a failed launch from Gaza that ignited stores under the hospital, others are saying it's a clear air strike... Any opinions from the more knowledgeable here?

    RIP to all those who died, an utter tragedy :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Of course, we can't lose our precious raison d'etre for lifetime interference in the Middle East. The oil must flow. What's a few dead ICU babies to black gold, texas tea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Utterly shocking attack on the hospital by Israel but there will be no consequences they retain the full support of US and British imperialism and they know they can essentially do as they wish.

    Why do they have the support exactly?

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    Russia occupies Ukraine, Israel occupies Palestine.

    Palestine does not occupy Israel.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    What’s gonna happen here is that Israel has just given hezbollah an excuse to open up a second front.

    This will bring Iran into it and whatever the USA want to do then.

    The 500 poor souls in that hospital will only be the start of the death toll in the Middle East for this particular war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Oil, to be exact. It's the origin and middle and possibly will be the end of US involvement in the middle east. US economic involvement dates back to the Red Line Agreement, when it and France and UK carved up the Ottoman Empire. It all began with oil. It's all because of oil. It will surely end on oil.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Israel are killing Palestinians young and old for years ,bombing hospitals today , is it any wonder Hamas or any able bodied Palestinian for that matter try to get back at Israel ??

    israel is the terrorist in the Middle East !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Yep looks like Ramallah could kick off soon.

    Wtf were the IDF thinking.

    Disgusting. 😡



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Assuming it was the same incident, the clip I saw earlier, sounded very much like an airstrike.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,370 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    1,000 killed on the BBC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,199 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    IDF advising their soldiers prepare for "a long, hard war" --- same thing a former republican U.S. president said pre-Iraq war.

    IDF threatening "something different than ground offensive" --- are they hinting at a similar nuclear threat Putin used, hmmm?

    Thread should be renamed "Israels attack against humanity"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    News reports right now are saying “Palestinians claim” or Hamas claims - there’s no official independent claim at this stage- what appears to be true is that many people have died.

    Let’s see if official reliable news reports can verify



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Yeah you know what I’m thinking the same now.

    I would never have thought that before.

    Im actually disgusted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,370 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Pressure will mount for the expulsion of the Israeli Ambassador.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,043 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Obviously not impartial but Al Jazeera are claiming 500 dead and carrying upsetting footage of live scenes from Gaza



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Biden is going to look like some clown tomorrow, repeating the line, "Israel has the right to defend itself", when journalists ask for his reaction to this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    AJ live feed

    Best ignore the comments section



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,419 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Well, it is the Palestinians or Hamas government officials that are in the area. Let's hope we get some clarity on it soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    Ambassador should be expelled immediately. Reports of 1000 killed. Absolute rouge state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Utterly horrendous


    I don't see there being any gain for Isrsel if they did this, especially with Biden en route


    so I'd wait to see the real story Which we will probably never know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,635 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Israel is currently making Russia look compassionate .The things Israel are doing are on a Hitler scale, USA is looking pretty stupid right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭lizzyjane


    Muslims watching this injustice happening live on tv and getting more radicalised. There will certainly bloodshed spilled on the streets of Europe over this through Islamic extremism. The West keep making the same mistakes over and over again and are spawning more terrorists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,370 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Israeli official broadcaster not reporting the news.

    They also say the ground invasion was delayed because of Biden's arrival.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭Banzai600


    Screw Europe and their bullsh1t rhetoric “ Israel has the right to defend itself within international law” , these EU leeches are sitting pretty and probably told to stay in their corner?


    looking at the pictures/videos on various news channels from the hospital, that strike was another massacre. End of. Many news agencies reporting?

    Gaza is now on DAY 10 of a relentless bombing campaign. Israel also bombed two refugee camps apparently which were densely populated around UN buildings , one being Maghazi refugee centre , which were identified under UN jurisdiction and flags but still got bombed. Reports now surgeons operating on ppl without Anaesthetics or painkillers.


    they reckon around 5000 ppl dead now in Gaza as the count is currently 3000 dead and thousands missing. I’d say it’s a lot more

    Rafah border crossing was bombed 4 times and the crossing is damaged. No escape.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,419 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Lovely.

    I wonder how Biden's visit go after tonight's tragedy.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Whilst someone said 1000 here on the thread most news reports I’ve seen say 500.

    Whatever the number it’s a serious amount of deaths - I’d strongly urge people not to watch footage of people being blown apart or the aftermath- just be careful it could do lasting psychological damage to you. What you see can’t be unseen - other posters have mentioned similar too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭quokula


    Looks like Hamas don’t have the same stomach for violence that Israel do, they’re offering to give up the hostages if Israel stops the industrial scale slaughter of innocent civilians and children they’re currently carrying out.

    Hard to believe Israel would stop if Hamas did give up the one piece of leverage they have though.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,419 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Thousands on the streets in Ramallah in the occupied West Bank.



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