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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,429 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    1. mortgages and rent are not the same

    2. A mortgage in Arrears is not in default

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,258 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Christ it's like arguing with a wall. I specifically said it was costing mortgage payers and renters more and that's 100% undeniable.

    You can argue without yourself about the difference between arrears and defaulting, it's just word salad.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Again a green assuming but I will answer Your question: I’m all for politics but I want to be represented by td’s who think of the people who put them in power. Here we have a FG’er who is never seen between one election and another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,726 ✭✭✭antoinolachtnai


    As far as I know we have never had difficulty attracting bids for thermal generation. Maybe you can give the specifics of when and how you believe this happened?



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You tell me, you're seemingly annoyed by the inspections detecting issues.

    Or are you annoyed by the fact I think it's great that the inspections are working?

    One wonders how you feel about the NCT putting cars off the road



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Green's polling at 3% according to the latest Irish Times numbers down 1% from last poll.

    The game is up. Irish people aren't buying what they are selling anymore.

    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well judging by how active you are on this thread, maybe you WFH for the Green Party!! :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,770 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande



    Total nonsense. Landlord, Can I put solar panels on the roof of your property at both your and my expense? What do you think the tenants and landlords calculations and incentives are, and what the answer is going to be?

    I've seen first hand the effect of the Green party legislation passed in 2008, it took effect 5 years later. The slumlords got shut down, their properties were taken off the rental market and those that remained were sold and upgraded. Guess what, the standards improved, the rent went up, a lot, and the number of available low budget rentals disappeared, not just the accommodation standards improved, so did the new landlords expectations of tenants. Potential renters who don't meet the new standards don't even get a look in on the new market. The net effect of policies is to lockout and kill those people who cannot meet their standards and create incentives for a new breed of landlord that can meet the regulations, pass the overhead cost to the tenant while extracting a yield. The new landlord is a consequence of EU fiscal policy that squashed bond yields. One by one the amateur landlords are forced from the market due to the cost of dealing with tenants, cost of living rises and overhead of complying with more regulations as well as future expectations of more restrictions to come with Sinn Fein in a future government.

    Green electric utopia comes at substantial economic cost, there is a tradeoff, The councils can have 500 properties for rent if they specify the landlord needs to meet your energy ratings or they can have 1000 properties available to accommodate people if they ignore you.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lamenting the departure of slumlords

    That's a new one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    It is true that there would be more properties available if standards were reduced somewhat.

    If you are a homeless would be renter, I'm quite sure you would prefer some place over no place.

    As long as said place was habitable, of course :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭creedp


    Thats the problem with these so called revenue neutral carbon taxes, they hit people most who can't afford them in the short term while those better off greenies/financial savvy individuals can avail of grants and invest in a raft of expensive new technologies to avoid these so called progressive taxes. Ah well let them eat cake for a few years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭creedp


    Exactly penalise people who cant afford the acceptable alternatives



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To be honest the quickest way to fix the rental market would be to kill off airbnb and other short term rental options



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    You mean to ban AirBnB altogether? And then hope that the landlords offer the accom for short term (3 to 6 month) letting?

    I know there are restrictions on AirBnB at the moment in Rent Pressure Zones, but judging by the number of people still using the platrorm, I am not convinced the rules are being broadly enforced.



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The enforcement is at the whim of the local council and so it's very uneven but none are covering themselves in glory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭creedp


    Im annoyed by the fact that these grants are just another example of a Govt slush fund for business being sold to the taxpayer as a benefit to them. The least I would expect is that these businesses would do a decent quality job in return for this largesse. Too much to expect obviously



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭creedp


    Absolutely agree with that. Know a few people who have removed perfectly suitable accommodation from the rental market in order to make a killing in the Airbnb market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Very true.

    I am unconvinced on the AirBnB argument to be honest.

    I dont think its fair that the govt dictate what a resident can do with their property, in so far as saying that you can rent your home out to this group of people, but you cant rent your home out to that group of people. (Govt: And my contradictory stance of allowing you to rent to some but not others is purely a result of my inability to deliver social homes in anything like meaningful numbers. My fault, your punishment)

    A bad AirBnB landlord who is having party tenants dropping by every weekend shoukd of course be struck out, but a good AirBnB landlord, renting their property to business travellers or well behaved tourists is doing no wrong in my opinion.

    Especially in rural tourist areas when the govt have swallowed up the hotel acoom for refugees. How else do they expect those towns to survive without Short term letting?

    The govt enjoys making its own rules (absorbing all the hotel accom for asylum seekers) and then penalising the local town by restricting or outlawing any other form of tourist accomodation.

    If I were a resident of a small tourist town and 2 of my 3 local hotels were taken up with asylum seekers, I'd be champioing AirBnB from the rooftops and would be hoping it may just help save my town from economic ruin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    I give you a personal example: i am from Haarlem, a small ish city west of Amsterdam. Born in 1964. I studied in Amsterdam and commuted the 20km distance on moped as i couldnt afford public transport. I was on a waiting list for 5 years before i had the chance to occupy a small; run down appartement. The rent was reasonable as were local taxes and energy costs so i could afford it on my study loan. Just about. It was a time when working class children could still manage to move into a city. That's over now. Gentrification, globalisation has made everything go up, standards AND costs. It is a global market. Newcomers are now from wealthy backgrounds and want to ban cars from cities to create a nice environment for themselves and let the working class struggle in far away suburbs and the countryside, creating a new division. Their green dream is build on division and exclusion despite what they are saying. They also have the resources to move to another hub/city if they want. They are flexible. And usually don't have ( want) children.They dont really care about others and are obsessed by identity politics and virtue signalling.

    I lived in Amsterdam for 14 years. Nowadays i would still be living with my parents in Haarlem if i started over. That overall mobility of classes/study/work has gone.

    In other words: we have seen the opposite of diversity, the buzz word they are still flinging in yr face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



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  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you are one of the poorest in society you get an upgrade for free by the a warmer homes scheme. I am sure you will now complain that they are freeloaders - but you can't have it both ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭creedp


    What about the squeezed middle? You know the people trying to keep their heads above water during this cost of living crisis, pay for everything but get fcuk all in return. Again just eat cake for the greater good



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    For many it's a case of choices. What do you prioritize - a holiday or loft insulation ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭creedp


    What a lovely warm fuzzy choice. What about the mortgage, the food bills, affording healthcare, affording free education, paying 3rd level fees, paying extortionate accommodation costs for 3rd level, keeping a diesel 7 seater on the road, etc, etc. Life isnt that simple and we dont all fit into the nice little box the green agenda would like us to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    I have forgotten who did the calculations but the outcome was an interesting one: if you compare EVs to ICE cars and include everything, mining, production, transportation, the EVs only start to have less emissions after the first 60.000 miles. And then of course there is the whole issue of batteries, their polution apart from Co2 and recycling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    What an arrogant response. So are the squeezed middle class ( if which I’m one ) never to have a holiday just to satisfy the greenies with their twisted agenda?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    From https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://8billiontrees.com/carbon-offsets-credits/how-much-co2-does-a-car-emit-per-mile/%23:~:text%3DA%2520single%2520car%2520emits%25204.6,8.887g%2520of%2520carbon%2520emissions.&ved=2ahUKEwjj16KYtNKBAxXIUUEAHXs3DZAQFnoECAwQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2TNIsdisD3zh6Z91t2AmO7 they estimate about 4.6 tons of CO2 equivalent for an average car per year. From the guardian, and if I go to the tab and get the web page I will lose this, but they say a new Ford Mondeo requires about 17 tons of co2 equivalent to make. Given the higher initial CO2 equivalent of a Bev, let's round it to 4 years of driving the ice to match the emissions of making a new Bev. That is without any driving of the Bev and the emissions associated with that.

    Keeping an ice car on the road for an extra four years is more beneficial.

    As fuel and tax for ice cars gets more expensive every year the market for used ice cars will go down. People will gravitate towards more efficient Bev cars which is great, but we shouldn't be making it too prohibitive to keep a well running car on the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Plenty on the social go on holiday abroad. So to get both a holiday abroad and free loft insulation you need to go on the social rather than earn an average salary?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭creedp


    I wonder how many annual family holidays and more many families would have to forgo to earn the right to wear the green badge in the real world and in doing so be able to sit back and objectively identify how those sacrifices have contributed toward halting global warming.



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  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm partial to a staycation myself, particularly camping



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