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Dublin dail protests - read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,407 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    I have a feeling they had no idea who Healy Rae was only saw politician

    Post edited by martingriff on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,021 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Not a very coherent group were those dopes. Far right, trans, racist, homophobic communists! Obviously the growing commie Nazi threat has revealed itself.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    It could be for those reasons, in the sense that anything is possible. It could also be that given our history we are sceptical of the exercise of state power against even badly behaved parts of its population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Some of them were shouting "sell out" at him, which seems to suggest they thought he was one of them possibly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I heard there was a contingent of Russians protesting mixed in with the bunch of headcases .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,865 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    They're not unrelated.

    The fact that you feel justified in being rude to someone just because you disagree with them speaks volumes.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,865 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Both things are negatives, both carried out by groups of loonies on our streets.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,705 ✭✭✭realdanbreen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,122 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Similar on Newstalk too. That is a no go idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,407 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    I think it was all current politicians they just got near him



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    " Both sides" nonsense.

    Stubbing your toe and breaking your leg are both negatives , but one is much worse than the other don't you think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭tomcosgrave


    I feel justified in being rude to someone who equivocates displays of iconography with the behavior on display yesterday, yes. How you can equivocate between the two is absolutely beyond me.

    Out of interest, if there hadn't been displays of Lenin and the hammer and sickle at the trans counter protest at the weekend, do you think yesterday's events would not have happened?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,021 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Following the October revolution homosexuality was de facto legalised that is until Stalin got into power and specifically banned homosexual acts.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    In other words "Rent - A - Mob" lead by a couple of "TD's" who were on tv recently encouraging a very vocal turnout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭hymenelectra


    As far as I could make out, healy rae was involved in some kind of hotel purchase to house immigrants.

    I can't swear to it but it's quite telling that you have to wade through countless comments of condemnation and classism. It's a nice way to bury the lede.

    People getting legitimately angry and shouting and screaming is the least surprising thing given the state of the country and what's going on.

    For all those grumbling behind their cups of tea for the last decade, and all the difference it has made, it's fairly rich to then condemn those actually taking action in protest.

    The easiest take away from the utter shambles of governance and country is this, this system is not going to last. It was never going to last. That's the starting point, that the status quo and modus operandi at large is simply done for.

    The only point of contention is how that drastic change is coming, not if.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Glencarraig




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Everyone has a right to protest. And people are pissed off about various issues. Which I can understand. But the majority of these people are permanently pissed off about everything, and made worse by online echo chambers. But they wont change their own life. You can make your own life better through knowledge, education and hard work. But hard work is alien to a lot of them. It's the gay, black, trans, immigrant that's holding me back. It's not. Its yourself.

    With online nowadays this is only going to get worse. Unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭event


    I will absolutely listen.

    What was it they were trying to say?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,732 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Willie O Dea hanging off the chopper firing a machine gun.

    I thought RTE said two exits on news yesterday but could be wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,903 ✭✭✭✭fullstop




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,793 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    That makes total sense. The alt right / conspiracy theory brigade hate Ukraine and Zelensky (and Ukrainian refugees of course).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭hymenelectra


    It's all very well to condemn and throw names without addressing any single issue.

    Not directed at you, but there is clearly something seriously wrong at the heart of this country. One may not acknowledge it consciously, but your brain does. Somewhere hidden away at the back.

    There is a fundamentally, even hysterically, obvious contradiction at large. We have so much money, apparently, yet there's no sign to be seen of it for a rapidly growing section of society. In fact, life is getting much worse.

    So, rather than point at the first social signs of malcontent and laughing like jeering hapless hyenas, maybe people should consider what is causing it.

    And no, it isn't the Internet. Its the housing crisis, the homeless crisis, the cost of living crisis, the immigration crisis, the healthcare crisis, the educational crises and so forth. Tangible and self evident, rather than the Internet bogeyman from America.

    It's greed behind this. And greed deserves everything coming to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Bit telling when certain posters are trying to draw a comparison with a peaceful counter protest which has always been acceptable.... Nobody seems to be even clear on what yesterday's was about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    And no, it isn't the Internet. Its the housing crisis, the homeless crisis, the cost of living crisis, the immigration crisis, the healthcare crisis, the educational crises and so forth. Tangible and self evident, rather than the Internet bogeyman from America.

    An often pushed narrative, that relies on everything being perfect on the ground, and that these types are solely the products of internet Americanisation. Ironically though, there's being much Americanisation, politically speaking at least, that's arrived on our shores, and it wasn't the "far right" who brought it here. If they are guilty, they are guilty for responding, and not importing.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,221 ✭✭✭prunudo


    I wasn't there so don't know either, but seems the media are more interested in hyping up the drama than actively asking what the protesters grievances were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭hymenelectra


    As I said above, it's no coincidence that people are tripping over themselves to jeer and condemn.

    Everyone knows what's wrong. But its far easier to jeer.

    Whatever website or piece of media you care to visit, it would be startling if there were a checkmark beside them declaring how they do or don't profit from the multiple fiasco in play.

    Greed is at the heart of this, and the furthest I was bothered to discern, healy rae is involved somehow in the purchase of hotels for migrants.

    How surprising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,247 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I'm all for protests. Done properly they can achieve change.

    But a mixed band of whatever's shouting etc isn't going to achieve much.

    Gallows with politicians pics on is juvenile and ridiculous.

    It gives Healy Rae his photo/hyperbolic comments tv and radio time.

    The idea of a 'sterile' area around the dail is nonsensical. These are public reps in a gov building.

    They need to actually engage with the public who have given them a cushy lifestyle and grow a pair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,836 ✭✭✭corny




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭tomcosgrave


    From The Journal - Who were the protesters at the Dáil yesterday and what exactly were they protesting?

    https://www.thejournal.ie/dail-protest-organisers-6174289-Sep2023/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭Tork


    It'll be interesting to see who was arrested. Yesterday was simply an escalation of what has been going on all year. Broadly the same people have been intimidating people working in pharmacies and vaccination centres, harassing workers in libraries and bookshops, causing trouble outside refugee accommodation and generally causing mayhem. Some of the individuals involved have been filmed being violent and abusive towards those who disagree with them but little has been done about them. I'm all for people exercising the right to protest but the antics of this rabble are on another level altogether. They seem to be a load of nasty, unemployable skangers who thrive on causing mayhem.



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