Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all, we have some important news to share. Please follow the link here to find out more!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058419143/important-news/p1?new=1

Price gouging by the pub, restaurant & hotel industry

1262729313249

Comments

  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Read the article.

    Stella wasn’t more expensive though, or even luxurious, by saying it was, people then thought it was, the placebo effect, by the way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,380 ✭✭✭SteM


    So if the OP is saying


    If anything price coughing is welcomed in southside villages. Food and drink tastes nicer knowing plebs cant afford them.


    they are saying it actually is more expensive that it's peers, why are you comparing it to something that isn't actually more expensive then it's peers? How can it be a placebo effect if the prices are actually higher?



  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    People think it’s better, just because it is more expensive, even though it may be no better than something that costs a lot less. It’s similar to feeling better just because you are taking a medicine which you are told works, even though it doesn’t.

    The Stella advertising worked because people thought they were buying an expensive beer, therefore they wanted it more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,380 ✭✭✭SteM


    Yeah, but the OP was referring to something that was more expensive so I don't really get your comparison. I'll drop it anyway.



  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know you don’t.

    Suffice to say, it’s expensive therefore they think it’s better, even though it may not be. The placebo effect.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,941 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭oceanman


    maybe you should be asking why they are low paid....instead of berating people for not leaving a tip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,768 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Provisionally booked a night in a 5 star hotel as a treat for the other half. It's costing just shy of €400 for one nights B&B. What bugs me is the check in and out times. 4pm and 12 noon respectively. To have dinner in it is extortionate but eating out somewhere else will eat into our stay time.

    Am I mad to go ahead with it? Should I look at a lower starred hotel that would probably throw in dinner for less than the overall price ? The late check in time is annoying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    Checkin time is the time when your room is guaranteed from. Most hotels have no problem with you arriving early - if your room is ready they will give you your key straight away.. if not, they'll take your bags and you can still enjoy the hotel facilities (bar, restaurant, spa etc) so if you are going for it I'd arrive earlier and make the most of staying in a 5-star.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,578 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Dundalk. Pubs nearly empty except for weekends but even then not as many as there were.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,615 ✭✭✭fliball123


    Mad to go ahead with it, 400 quid fecking hell. and for 5 6ths of a day as well. ECB rates gone up again today the cost base in the country is going north and people thinking that we will have to pay prices to keep the services industry in business will soon find that the wall is approaching. Hotels are in for a rude awakening once the war in Ukraine is over and the hotels are no longer being used for putting refugees in. Dublin will last a bit longer due to the % of people and higher paying jobs but these will be going as well as more and more companies relocate their head count away from our Capital. Ireland will look a lot different in 5/6 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,768 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Sounds good advice.

    Have dinner in it and suck up the extra costs? Or dinner elsewhere but lose time at the venue?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    The check in- check out times are fairly standard acrosss most hotels regardless of the star rating. They have to do a complete changeover of every room in that 4 hour window. Obviously there will be some rooms ready a lot sooner than 4pm so if you contact them beforehand with a request to check in earlier they should be able to accomadate you.

    To be honest under 400 for a 5 star hotel isn't off the scale expensive, it's probably one of the better deals around at the moment. You'll have a huge choice of quality food for breakfast, a swimming pool, gym and plenty of other extras to enjoy.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    I remember a time about 15 years ago, when Stella was being promoted as a premium brand here in Ireland, but in the UK it was being pushed as the value brand in the Manchester area, brewed in same brewery and packaged in the same bottle sizes. The marketing folks must not have been soccer fans that traveled for weekends of premiership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭nachouser


    I'd try do it the other way around and try to find a reasonably priced hotel close to a really good restaurant. If you were staying for a weekend then you'd get the benefit of hanging around the hotel, going for a swim or a sauna. But if it's just one night, you'd be hard pushed to squeeze in 400 quids worth of enjoyment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Do you mind me asking where you've booked? We stayed in Castlemarthyr in Feb for 2 nights for 480e!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,768 ✭✭✭Xander10




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Ah right. Have never stayed there but its supposed to be fab. However, I'm sure drinks and food will be highly priced so your 400e soon turns into 6. It depends on what you want to do? I'd rather go on a city break for that price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,768 ✭✭✭Xander10


    I've a fancy air BnB for 2 nights and was going to wrap it up with day 3 in powerscourt. The first part costs a bit less than powerscourt, so the average value isn't too bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Well it's your money but there's no way I'd drop 400 on a night in any hotel no matter how many stars it had!



  • Advertisement
  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If the guy wants a night out in a top hotel as a treat with his partner, who gives a f**k whether you’d spend it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Don't knock it until you've tried it, I wouldn't be doing it often but on special occasions it's nice to enjoy lavish luxury and be treated like royalty.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    He asked what people thought and that's what I think!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Well enjoy it so! The spa there is supposed to be fab.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    Powerscourt is very nice, I think from what I remember there’s a seperate bar and restaurant so if you wanted to stay on site and keep it cheaper you could eat in the pub? Alternatively, Enniskerry village is only a 5min drive away and if you’re staying at the hotel the concierge will usually drop you to/from. The pubs aren’t anything special but there’s a nice Italian place for dinner or coffee shop on the corner for morning. I’d make the most of the afternoon and daylight at the hotel though and go for a wander around the grounds.


    Bizarrely and going back to thread, I actually think the gouging is less evident in 5-star hotels etc and much more noticeable in local pubs. Eg. I was in a city centre 5-star a few weeks ago for lunch and paid €6.70 for a Guinness… pub in Co Wicklow other day charged €6.50.. Dublin prices!



  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Everly Squeaking Goalkeeper


    Not really true without a reputation for good food and service to back it up. Simple as if you have poor trip advisor reviews or whatever you can charge €50 a main if you want no one’s coming inside.

    The fact is most people are less than willing to waste money these days and will carefully choose where they spend it.

    we have won a few awards this year among other local places including a bar & we are way busier than most on the back of it. Good reputation is everything in hospitality.

    In fact walking behind a group of people on my way back from a break before service, about 20 mins before we opened they walk by and comment how it’s empty (we were closed still so) but then another remarked it’s probably cos no one can afford to eat there.

    They said this without evening looking at the menu! Our front of house and kitchen staff often come out for dinner on their days off with partners and family so it’s certainly not that out of range! But it’s all about how your rep for good food and/or drinks holds up.

    I’d be inclined to double check google or just eat reviews when planning on eating somewhere I’ve never been or heard much about especially if it’s expensive.

    Trip adviser reviews would close the doors of a restaurant if they’re charging €€€ for shite food. You just wouldn’t get away with it so you cannot just asset that big prices offer people an impression of high quality and they’ll then go there often.

    Absolutely people can be influenced by price but I don’t think it really happens as much as you think with hospitality especially with how easy it is to google them and find out what kind of place it really is. All a menu outside does these days is help a customer decide if you’re worth googling 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,357 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Its a good point about age profiles but i would say mainly folks 25 to 45.

    Certainly not older retired ages. But hasn't that always been the case?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,357 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Thanks.

    Outside Dublin i think there is a different story. The money is concentrated in Dublin.

    I have been to other towns and seen very quiet pubs, even on a friday.



  • Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You’ve completely missed the point being discussed, it wasn’t the quality of the food, it was the price in certain south side establishments who the poster said, customers enjoyed their food more, knowing others couldn’t afford it.

    Here is what sweet science posted:

    ”If anything price coughing is welcomed in southside villages. Food and drink tastes nicer knowing plebs cant afford them.”

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Despite the higher prices people are still generous with tipping, my 18yo works part time in a local pub / restaurant, and averages €10 /hour tips, on top of her wages



Advertisement