Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking

21-08-2023 10:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121005566#Comment_121005566

The legal costs must be eye-watering at this stage. I couldn't even hazard a guess. 💰️ 💰️ 💰️

I wonder if WHS have cut him off the payroll yet? Maybe tomorrow. (1 year since suspension).

blackwhite · 21-08-2023 11:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121006219#Comment_121006219

Pedantic I know - but are the fines only for the days that he shows up at the school?

If he hasn't been showing up since end of term in June, then the daily fines are static until terms restarts and the bould Enoch makes his reappearance.

Likewise - he won't have been accruing any daily fines on weekends (unless he was showing up on Saturday and Sundays - and I definitely don't imagine him showing up to "work" on the sabbath 😁)

21-08-2023 11:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121006273#Comment_121006273

No, the daily fines are not for each day he turns up at WHS, they are for each day he remains in contempt of the High Court injunction ordering him to stay away from WHS.

The fines began to be applied on 27 January and apply for every day since (including school closures, weekends, bank holidays etc) and will continue to accrue until he goes before the Court and purges his contempt.

GarfieldandPookyBear · 23-08-2023 07:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121006240#Comment_121006240

I’ve completely lost track 😂 Too many hearings but it would be approximately 20k per day in the high court depending on how many barristers so a lot of money! I think they are still paying him pending the outcome of something? They are not obliged to though. Bet he’s polishing up his satchel for school next week 😂😂😂

looksee · 23-08-2023 09:17PM

Once the money gets to a level where he has no possibility of paying it, he might as well carry on.

23-08-2023 09:48PM

They deserve each other

https://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/2023/08/23/cancelled-fr-ted-creators-support-for-enoch-burke/

Sammy2012 · 28-08-2023 09:38AM

He's apparently back at the school today!!!

28-08-2023 10:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121036903#Comment_121036903

Shure what else would he be doing

28-08-2023 10:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121036903#Comment_121036903

If he is, I doubt anyone will be surprised.

The High Court need to get their finger out, and issue the judgement on the injunction over the Disciplinary Appeal Panel, so it can either proceed with the current members, or alternative members appointed.

Its ridiculous that this has been allowed to drag on over the summer, and into a new school year.

28-08-2023 10:57AM

confirmed

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/enoch-burke-back-at-school-he-was-sacked-from-for-new-term-as-fines-pass-148000/a2095909049.html

Some interesting bits in the article

The trespass charge has been dropped
Total fines are 148k, plus the 15k costs to the school, plus 6 figure legal costs....ouch

Oscar_Madison · 28-08-2023 10:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121036903#Comment_121036903

The independent article stated he has set himself up in a “corridor” ?

Shirley this is looking for a showdown of sorts? I didn’t think he was permitted to be on the school grounds, only outside.

Former teacher Enoch Burke has returned to the school that sacked him in what is seen as a pledge to continue his protest at his dismissal.

As the new term began today, Mr Burke arrived and took up position in a corridor in the school.

Sammy2012 · 28-08-2023 10:59AM

He can hardly stay in the corridor?! Surely he'll be removed for trespassing.

28-08-2023 11:04AM

As far as I can remember, he is not allowed anywhere past the gate, though I'd need to go back and check.

If he is in a corridor, he is provoking a showdown. Twat.

757TFFIU · 28-08-2023 11:26AM

If he is physically in the building, on a corridor, he is in breach of the court order. Surely he is a trespasser, and can be removed by Gardai. I suspect he's trying to be put back in prison. In saying that, he's just making a plonker of himself at this stage (as if he wasn't already).

chooseusername · 28-08-2023 11:28AM

Also wrong in the Indo;

“prompting the High Court to issue him with a daily €700 fine for every day he remained in contempt of court by turning up at Wilson’s Hospital.”

He is fined 700 euro every day for contempt of court whether he turns up at the school or not.

Is Daddy still driving him to school?

Acosta · 28-08-2023 11:44AM

I assume he'll never pay the fines and will prefer to return to prison. But are the authorities actually ever going to look for these fines to be settled? Or have they already done so? Or does it have something to do with whatever appeal he has pending?

hoodie6029 · 28-08-2023 11:55AM

If he is inside, he’s probably looking for a confrontation to get some articles going and social media outrage.

Wilson’s will be smart enough not to fall for that, leave him there until 4 o’clock and just make sure he doesn’t interact with the students.

They’ll have a bouncer on the door tomorrow so he can’t repeat it.

lmao10 · 28-08-2023 11:58AM

Id say he's just delighted to get out of that house.

salmocab · 28-08-2023 12:49PM

I imagine he wants away from the mother and his dad is sick of driving him and they’ve concocted a plan that suits them both.

kirk. · 28-08-2023 12:58PM

Must be very disruptive to the students his presence in the corridor

Deebles McBeebles · 28-08-2023 01:00PM

Hopefully he's beside the unisex toilets.

Oscar_Madison · 28-08-2023 01:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121037755#Comment_121037755

Back in my day we’d probably have pea shooting competitions (wet paper and empty bic biro ) to see who could hit him without getting caught 😛

28-08-2023 01:17PM

It was Justice Owens who, when he ruled that WHS suspension of EB was lawful, who also ruled that EB had no right to enter the school once he had been suspended and that his attendance afterwards amounted to trespass.. He said that WHS was entitled to a permanent injunction barring Enoch from the premises.

I guess that means WHS were hoping to avoid that - that the DAP would have taken place before the new school year, and some resolution would have been reached by now

I guess they will now have to formally apply to the High Court to have the temporary injunction made permanent.

Former Former Former · 28-08-2023 01:25PM

It seems bizarre that anyone can just walk into a school and stay there until a court order is obtained.

Doesn't seem compatible with child protection.

NIMAN · 28-08-2023 02:03PM

Fair play to him, he's not a quitter anyway.

How many days are in the school calendar year? Are the media going to report on him being there for every single one of them? Or will they eventually stop covering the story?

Juran · 28-08-2023 02:10PM

The legal system needs to toughen up on this guy and his carry on. Don't care what the legal language is or what code or law he is presumed to be breaking, but if a grown man, who was not welcome in a school, was hanging around the school corridor where my kids were at school, I'd be expecting the justice system to step in and protect my kids. In fact, I'd be furious he is allowed anywhere near the building perimeter.

The high court has already ruled. Case closed. Get off school.property, dont come back, dont disrupt the school.staff & pupils, and patents.

If the justice system doesnt step in to protect the kids & teachers, and resolve this issue, people will start to take justice into their own hands. Its not right that people go down this route, but unfortunatly it will happen.

Former Former Former · 28-08-2023 02:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121038157#Comment_121038157

Or will they eventually stop covering the story?

They did stop covering it for a long time, but the guy rocking up for the first day of term is news.

The media are not the issue here, and if anyone thinks Enoch will just lose interest if he's not appearing in the news, they have not been paying attention.

BlueSkyDreams · 28-08-2023 02:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121038157#Comment_121038157

How much does he owe in fines now?

Str8outtaWuhan · 28-08-2023 02:34PM

Seems Enoch was prophetic. New sphe curriculum to be taught to this year's 1st yrs.

https://www.curriculumonline.ie/Junior-Cycle/Short-Courses/SPHE-2023/SPHE-toolkit/Myself-as-an-SPHE-teacher/

TLDR, teachers must use preferred pronouns and avoid gendered language like "boys, girls, lads, ladies, guys, mum,dad etc"

Oscar_Madison · 28-08-2023 02:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121038445#Comment_121038445

My god seriously would you be a teacher these days having to deal with all of that- I’d be petrified I’d make some innocent mistake that would see me hauled over the coals

Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking

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