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Price gouging by the pub, restaurant & hotel industry

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  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It should always be ensured that when the likes of AAI or Vintners are on the radio they have someone from the consumers side to challenge them. That just hasn't happened and they get to pedal what they want. As I've said the long winter months are coming. They will run out of Yanks to crucify soon enough and will be whinging that the locals have copped on to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Blatant lies/Fake news or what ever you want to call it are a major issue thee days.

    I'm not at all in favour of limiting peoples speech, but by the same token I'm not in favour of people who make heaps of money come on the airwaves and tell lies that they're about to go out of business, and they need need tax cuts and what not.

    Like I just did a very quick Check there on booking.com for the 21st - 22nd Jun 2024 vs 28th - 29th Jun 2024 (date of Taylor Swift)

    The prices are at least doubled for hotels close to the Avivia, and there's plenty of availability for both weekends.

    If you're caught gouging, you should lose low hospitality tax rate. I think that's fair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    I put a link up the other day to a 25kg bag that was about €16. And that's retail prices for 1 bag. A commercial enterprise buying in bulk pays not much more than half that, I'd say.



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    €4.50 for a measly slice of bakewell today in a Dublin suburb cafe. Never again will I go in to that place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Price gouging is an ongoing thing since covid. I know it's not pub/restaurant but my hairdresser increased prices to cover Covid protection/cleaning products , then for increase in electricity prices then announced they might have to increase again if VAT rate changed.

    All seem valid reasons until Covid stopped being an issue but prices didnt drop to reflect this

    Before Covid I could get hair colour/cut for 65 Euro but now has increased to 86 so needless to say home colour is on trend in my house . Not a hope will I pay that in a rural hairdressers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,767 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Was charged €2.50 for two slices of brown bread, not soda bread, but just sliced pan brown bread in a Limerick hotel to accompany my starter which wasn't soup, even Brennans or Pat the Baker full pan is cheaper

    Dunnes Stores Cafe in Bishopstown Cork do a breakfast, 5 items plus tea or coffee and 2 slices of toast for 5.75 or 5.99, great bargain

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,056 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Why do so many people in this thread eat in hotels?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,350 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...well its either free meals of they have the disposable income to do so....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,056 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Just think its weird that if you have the disposable income to do so you'd spend it in a hotel restaurant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,350 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...shur why not, if you ve worked for it, you can do what you want with it, and some hotel meals are bloody nice....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,451 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Problem with Ireland this year is because the weather is so **** that there is literally nothing else to do other than eat out or go on the piss. So every restaurant is jammed all the time and can easily increase prices and cut corners on quality.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    And that's why nothing will change. Until the public vote with their feet the prices will continue to rise

    Look on booking.com for a hotel anywhere in the country for a weekend and the prices are huge but a lot of places are booked out. We just accept the increases and carry on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,350 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...tis all relative, yup its been a pretty sh1te summer, but don the wet gear and get out there....

    some people have the money, some dont, if you re waiting for the masses to force the change, you might be waiting!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,059 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Everyone has their limit though.

    The "industry" is in for a bit of a shock when all the tourists aren't here to be fleeced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    We are getting record numbers passing through the ports this year. So there is no drop in the flow of folks coming into the country. Quite the opposite.

    Sounds like overall tourism is down a little vs peak pre covid, though Dublin is constantly opening new hotels and they all seem full.

    Also still plenty of locals out spending 7 euro a pint without a flicker.

    Some of the best eateries in the city are in hotels, so non guests will of course eat there.

    in short, there will be no price dropping in the short term, in Dublin at least.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Inexpensive Meteorite


    Even for Temple Bar this is scandalous...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Deub


    Out of curiosity I checked my emails for out local Chinese takeaway. I don’t think they do price gouging but had to increase due to various cost. I always take the same thing so it is easy to compare. Price of crispy chicken satay with chips:

    May 2011: 7.20€

    May 2020: 9.00€

    May 2023: 12:80€

    That’s an initial increase of 25% in 9 years (2011-2020) and an additional increase of just over 42% only in the last 3 years (2020-2023).



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Inexpensive Meteorite


    What's Clonliffe, a five minute walk from Temple Bar?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,369 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    No, it's a solid 20 minute walk, it's also a locally owned bar aimed at locals, not a tourist bar in a high rent district charging prices that tourists have no issues paying.

    Nobody from ballybough is drinking in temple bar, nobody who goes to temple bar would go to ballybough, trying to compare the 2 is stupid.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,767 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    If you are staying in the hotel for a night or two, usually dine in their bar or restaurant or if a bit flush, will treat myself to a meal out which whether a hotel eatery or normal cafe restaurant bar etc., can still be expensive but some extortionate

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Inexpensive Meteorite


    Fair enough, was only in Clonliffe once and seemed alright.

    Tourists have no issue paying it as they see Temple Bar as some sort of monument like the Eiffel Tower or Colosseum. Temple Bar is not what people picture when they imagine Irish pubs.

    We should be doing all we can to stop its glorification.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭hymenelectra


    Unsustainable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,369 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    I don't disagree, when tourists get here I'd love if they seeked out locally owned pubs with actual atmosphere, real people and real craic, but then I wouldn't drink in those places anymore.......

    The clonliffe house can try and take the moral high ground (and it's not a bad boozer) but if they had live music 12 hours a day Monday to Sunday I guarantee the 5 euro pint wouldn't last pissing time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,767 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    That's nearly double the price

    Temple Bar has always been expensive compared to the rest of Dublin

    I can understand why people sometimes bring their own stash

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Inexpensive Meteorite


    Whenever I have friends from abroad looking for advice when visiting Ireland, my number 1 advice is to avoid Temple Bar. It's not cool, it's not trendy, it's a glorified pickpocket.

    When people think of France - Eiffel Tower

    When people think of Italy - Colosseum

    When people think of Ireland - It's not bloody Temple Bar, it's a cosy thatched pub with an open fire and a sing-song.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,767 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is there any thatched homely Irish food pubs with music in Dublin?

    I also tell anyone avoid Temple Bar for food and drink

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Inexpensive Meteorite


    I think there's one in the mountains I was in before.

    Moral of the story, if you visit Ireland, get out of Dublin ASAP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    Last "gastro" pub i went into (I wont be going into anymore of them after the eye watering bill) I went into at 12:30 on a Sunday.

    This place was a normal pub with notions tbh. When we walked in the door we were ambushed by a waitress with a clipboard before we could sit down. We said "table for 3 please".

    "Do you have a reservation".

    "err. no"

    "Let me see if we can fit you in". Goes off for 2 minutes and comes back and says, "we have a cancellation, let me show you to your table"

    So we sat down at a table in a pub with maybe 4 other families having lunch, ordered our food which came at 1:00. Spent about an hour and a half eating and had a pint after the meal. Left at about 3pm. All the while the place we needed a reservation for never had anymore than 5 tables occupied.

    The bill is another story, and the reason I wont ever be darkening the door of a "gastropub" ever again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    It's all a cod though. Pulled in at a garage the other day and the previous purchase was €9.

    Also know someone who closed a business to do it from home claiming the reason was a better work life balance but I know two others who previously closed similar in the same town because they couldn't make a living



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