Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Yup. Presenting Trump in public like that is too risky.

As someone else said, if he can't win over swing voters, he can't win. All he is doing now is the last desperate grift. The only people that will tune into his Carson interview is his MAGA heads. He is using this time wisely, to scrounge every last dollar out of these MAGA heads. Expect his defence

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he withdraws from the race, after securing the nomination. "I would have won, but those pesky Democrats stopped me from being YOUR PRESIDENT because of their WITCH HUNT"

Speaking of the last grift. IT's not going terribly well as his, "Patriot Legal Defence Fund" was hacked last Friday and is still up and hacked.

https://patriotlegaldefensefund.com/

Trump isn't doing the debates because he doesn't have to. There is no cost to him on avoiding it. His supporters were quick to label Biden as running scared during the 2019 election by avoiding rallies etc (Covid was the reason) but of course when Trump does it is simply his genius.

Second, he doesn't believe he is actually in a race. Why would he bother debating losers? He is not running for the GOP nomination, he is running for POTUS. You hear it all time. Especially that Trump shouldn't be indicted because he is running for POTUS. Technically he is only currently running for the GOP nomination but he doesn't see it that way.

He isn't avoiding them because he is worried he will lose the head. TO think that one has to believe that at some point Trump can see that something he says or does is wrong. We have no evidence that he ever thinks that.

He'd have to be careful about under what pretences the money is grifted under. Already in trouble for Stormy Daniels case for using supposed campaign funds for other purposes.

Doesn't he at least have to employ/use accountants to comply with PAC rules and regulations, keeping books etc to account for the donations and outgoings?

The notion that there'd be several sets of books used to disguise where the donations were going/being used for would mean he hadn't learned from the raid on one of his lawyers, the one tried and sent to prison after more than one set of accountancy books listed as being for Trump's firm was found in his offices in Trump towers some years back.

One thing that can [probably] be recognized as factual is that Trump looked at the two parties prior to 2014 and decided that the Dems [with the Clintons there] were not going to be a pushover for him and he chose the republican party because he saw its weaknesses when it came to flimflammery. As to whether he came in with a plan from the start to successfully remake the party in his own image, maybe history and his friends in the dirty tricks Dept will tell the republicans. I don't see history being kind to Trump though it might let the family off with their complicity and promotion of his activities.

A fish would never get caught if it kept it's mouth shut

According to a statement of the defendant on Truth Social, he will go to Atlanta, Georgia on Thursday to be arrested by a radical left DA, Fani Willis. That's very polite considering his varied description of people who've upset him.

In Georgia, the defendant will face a $200,000 bond and orders not to send threatening social media messages as he awaits trial, according to a bond agreement signed by the defendant's attorneys and the Fulton Country district attorney, Reuters reported.

One thing that will face the US, if the defendant is tried and convicted of the charges and put in prison, from that time on every new foreign ambassador to the US may have to visit him in prison to present him with the ambassadors credentials. That'll be something for them to tell the grandkids.

In breaking news, John Eastman has surrendered himself to authorities and was booked into Fulton County Jail. He is expected to have an arraignment set in the coming weeks in the racketeering case.

Fair point raised in an Indo article about the republicans who have put their names forward for the presidency. What, knowing that Trump is going to run himself, have the candidates done to present a clear argument to the party voters that the votes must be given to them and not Trump? What are they each individually proposing as their aims and intents to get elected and to fulfil said aims if elected. Presumably the Fox debate will have enough time for them to do so.

One candidate has given two of his aims as: 1. Pardon Trump if he's convicted and 2. run the US in the way Elon Musk would. As platforms go, that sounds stranger than any platform Trump could run on. It doesn't sound like the other candidates have mush they can use to change Trump supporters into voters definitely likely to vote for them instead.

If Pence says anything about the role he took in Jan 2020 during the debate tonight, it'll be hard for Trump not to resist passing a comment in response due to his belief in free speech. Pence provided witness testimony to the Washington Grand Jury. I don't know if the Washington case witnesses are protected from Trump by way of an agreement with the prosecutor, his own lawyer's assent to the witness protection and with the judge hearing that particular case, as in the Georgia case.

Its looks like Haley was trying to garner the female vote with her "we don't need to jail or execute women because they had abortions" but failed. It might be worthwhile keeping an eye on this issue amongst female GOP and independent-minded voters as it should be something worth a lot more to them at a personal level than it would males.

There's also the fact that making abortion completely illegal Federally and State law wise would put many a male in a pickle where paternity cases would be an inconvenience for them. I'm surprised the male candidates haven't seen the writing on the wall on the issue.