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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Have you watched Succession?? The networks still have a massive pull, particularly with fox



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,737 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Maybe he has irrefutable evidence?

    id day he more likely to ramble on with a pile of nonsense and hope that he creates enough talking points for his followers to continue with their implausible denials.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Interesting timing difference between the reporting of voting of grand jury and the deleted court docket that was posted before there was a result and charges

    https://archive.li/2gbga

    The Reuters story and headline have since been changed not mentioning the core component of the original story.

    I guess if it was only one person behind this it isn't a....conspiracy!


    Funny that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    News Corp profits droped by 75% this last year they need Trump and Murdoch will gladly let one of his kids take a golden shower to keep Trump onside if it helps boost the profits again no matter what he thinks of Trump in private.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,983 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    But given the payout to Dominion and possibly more coming from the other voter machine company, even if they got Trump to agree not to mention them directly there's about a 99-100% chance he could go off script at any moment and mention them.

    Fox will do whatever they have to.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    There will not be a single shred of "new" Evidence , it will be all the same old dis-proven nonsense with a fresh coat of outrage applied.

    If they had found anything new , we'd have already heard about it - Trump can't keep his mouth shut.

    To refer back to those people claiming earlier that the indictments were some kind of distraction to the Hunter Biden tripe.

    The morning after he and 18 of his closest friends (that he barely knows and maybe met once or twice when they brought him coffee) get indicted for various conspiracy charges , we are suddenly told that they have a report with lots of cast iron evidence that proves that they are innocent.

    A report we've heard nothing about in the months and years since the Georgia Grand Jury started hearing evidence but is now suddenly ready for prime time.

    Now THIS , this is what a contrived attempt to distract from seriously bad news actually looks like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No not to tell him what to do but advise him what he can do to have more reach, ie not mention Dominion by name



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    They'll follow the "NewsMax Model" - They'll allow him to spout whatever nonsense he likes and then they'll cut back to studio and the presenter will give one of those high-speed disclaimers like the ones you hear after Drug adverts

    "Fox News would like to remind its viewers that they fully accept and recognise the official outcome of the 2019 Presidential Elections"

    Played at 2X speed followed by a rapid cut to an ad break to allow them to re-start discussing something totally different when they return



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,318 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Fox News already did a bit of that in the wake of the 2020 election, cutting away from one of Trump's rambling speeches about how the vote was rigged. This was perhaps Fox News trying to get things moving on from Trump. However, they soon realised that Trump and MAGA was bigger than they were and they came to heel. Fox News now has to skilfully weave a thread between supporting Trump in order to keep their audience but not giving any airtime to anything of him which might get them sued, and that could be a lot of stuff, given how fiery and unhinged Trump's rhetoric is getting as the legal noose tightens. It'll be quite a tapdancing act.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,521 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Won't matter. Murdoch's a dying breed. TV news and radio are analogue beasts in a digital age. There's no point in waiting for a specific time of day/week for your favourite gammony ragemonger of choice when Twitter has you covered 24/7, 365 days a year.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,318 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I don't entirely agree with that. There is a communal aspect to appointment TV and radio that actually goes away with on-demand access, and it's a communal aspect that is useful for political purposes as it synchronises the political outlooks of a whole mass of people right at once.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Which is why I think they will let him say whatever he wants by playing his speeches etc. in full and will hide behind "we are just reporting what the leading candidate is saying" and then make sure to get that disclaimer out there rapidly when they come back to Studio and then they will just ignore the content of what Trump has said and just shift focus to blaming Biden for bringing charges.

    They won't allow any one "in-studio" to say it , but they will play all of his stuff un-redacted to try and play both sides.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    100%.

    If they had anything does anybody think they waiting for the report to finish?

    Where is this new evidence coming from? Nowhere. Its all rubbish to buy him time and control the narrative.

    What bugs me about how everyone treats Trump is that they are willing to listen. Sounds very noble but the man is a proven liar, the whole thing is based on nothing but still people want to give him time.

    He'll flood the media with a load of crap that people will spend time and energy disproving.

    Tell it to the judge. If you have evidence then produce it on court, not some half arsed media PR event.

    He has had 2 years to produce something and not even a hint before today that he had anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The US is quite different though.

    There is a whole cohort of older (mostly conservative) viewers that sit down every evening after dinner to watch their News channel of choice, which has mostly been Fox News.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Maybe I'm a robot. But I don't see a vast conspiracy there, it was hardly a secret to the court which charges the prosecution was seeking, nor is there any indication the GJ dithered on the charges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It's all fascinating and ironic because he wants to delay delay delay the courts but he insists this case will be about all this proof he has as ready as soon as next week.

    The only ones left hanging on are the ones who are waiting for Ron L Hubbard to come down from Heaven in a flying limousine with Elvis and JFK.

    I'm just inclined to watch the Republicans red-wave-november themselves again personally.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's the same "Schrodinger" argument they make about Joe Biden - All at once a senile, useless old fool and a cunning evil schemer working to destroy the country and his opponents.

    Trump has all the evidence he needs to prove the biggest fraud in World history which would result in the immediate collapse of the current Government and his instant reinstatement but he'd like to wait to go to court until after the Election in 14 months time if that's ok with everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    MI State Rep Matt Maddock tries to walk back comments that someone is going to shoot someone or a revolution or civil war is about to break out because Trump and his coconspirators are facing the consequences of their crimes




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    The human turd is so fukked. RICO for the win.And it will be on TV so we will be able to watch the cockroache squirm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    RICO in GA : min 5 years, no pardon. Law and order ftw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    It's hard to believe people dedicated their career and principles to him, I wonder will they continue to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    And her office, which is familiar with RICO, has about a 90% conviction rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,313 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    And he won't be getting a pardon from this guy....



    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,822 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Best report ever, a beautiful report. Sydney Powell's best work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,595 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Maybe some of those baselessly claiming witch hunt or conspiracy against Trump can explain how Georgias Republican governor seems to be going along with it...

    This will be one of the inconvenient truths ignored even though it is proof positive the claims are without merit or foundation.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,318 ✭✭✭✭briany


    For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward - under oath - and prove anything in a court of law.

    Would the likes of @MisterAnarchy like to come forward and state why they think this is so? And is the answer some variety of "....because the courts are crooked!"

    Yes, yes, everyone is crooked apart from the phony university starting, non-tax-paying, birther-conspiracy-subscribing, is-that-a-real-tan, Donald J. Trump.

    We will be fair about the above tweet - Trump's teams did manage to win one case they filed, although it related to how votes were 'cured' in Pennsylvania.

    The biggest laugh in all of this was the team of 'cyber ninjas' who did their own audit in Maricopa County, Arizona, only to end up with the result that Biden had even more votes. Still, they came away with a conclusion of, "I don't know.... something awful fishy going on. We cannot prove anything, but there was something crooked..."

    'k.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,521 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Sure, but it's mainly older people tuning in and they don't seem to be being replaced by equivalent younger people. Even when I go home, my folks who'd be as communal around the telly as you get are all on their separate devices.

    Oh, sure. It'll be the same in 5 years or even maybe 10 but it's not going to be the pattern forever. All around the world, conservatives have done their absolute damndest to destroy younger people's prospects. All of my things are either in my old bedroom or in the one I rent here in London. Not much room for me to fit in a TV.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,313 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    One important correct from Joyce Vance on the topic of 5 year mandatory sentence..



    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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