UK will finally off shore illegal asylum seekers crossing the channel

no it was illegal hence why the lawyers had their successes on the issue.

israel implemented it and it failed.

refugees and assylum seekers will continue to come to britain whatever britain does, because while it is deliberately being destroyed by the tories as that is what they do, it will always be better then iran, afghanistan ETC.

And when they try to place hundreds of men into an area, the local community don't want them, as is what happens here.

European countries provide the bear minimum requirements for refugees under international law. That's all. They can't afford to provide more than that and they know the more generous they make the system the more refugees will come. So the policy is designed to keep conditions unfavourable so it keeps the potentially millions of people who would want to migrate away from their kip homelands to the propersous West.

Is it not better that they work?

Tbh I’d find it believable as that poster is only referring to their own experiences (or indeed lack thereof!), so in stating that they knew 100 people who didn’t go over to the UK in the 70’s just to go on the dole, never mind that they earlier referred to the hundreds of people they knew who didn’t go over to the UK just to go on the dole… they’re ignoring the many, many thousands of Irish people who did go over to the UK in the 70s with ne’er so much as a pot to piss in, who either ended up on the dole, or simply perished.

In 1968 there was a shift in Governmental thinking under Minister for Labour Patrick Hillery, when it was proposed that local employment exchanges would provide information about employment in Britain, that mutual recognition of educational qualifications be agreed, and that some state funding be made available for the welfare of emigrants in Britain. In the early 1970s, then Minister for Labour Joe Brennan set up the Committee on Welfare Services to support young people who were leaving for England with little or no preparation or money. This committee of 15 people met in the Department of Labour in Dublin and was superseded in 1984 by the establishment of the London-based Díon Committee by then Minister for Labour Ruairí Quinn who was of the view that a committee in Dublin was not sufficient to address the needs of vulnerable Irish emigrants in Britain. In 2004, following the report of the Task Force on Policy Regarding Emigrants, the Government established the Emigrant Support Programme, to be managed by a dedicated unit, the Irish Abroad Unit, which was set up in the Department of Foreign Affairs.

https://www.dfa.ie/media/dfa/alldfawebsitemedia/newspress/publications/ministersbrief-june2017/1--Global-Irish-in-Numbers.pdf

Relying solely on their own experiences (or indeed lack thereof), is meaningless, particularly in the context of overwhelming evidence which contradicts their limited knowledge of the numbers of Irish people who emigrated to the UK only to end up on the dole, or perish, similar to the numbers of immigrants in the UK today who are experiencing exactly the same circumstances.

No, it's better they hold and turn people around quickly

Ok, so.You're ok with government supplying housing and health benefits? cos I thought from your posts that you didn't believe in all tnat?

There's way too much emphasis on the 'first safe country' thing. A person who claims asylum may well end up spending the next few decades in that country, so they have to give a huge amount of consideration to where it is. They're not just going to say 'I have a roof over my head this evening and a meal on the table. This will do, I'll claim asylum here'.

But you were saying earlier they are fleeing war and persecution and famine. Yet they have a large amount of time to weigh up which country to move to.