This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

Tesla dont seem to be advertising any 'new' used cars - why is this? Surely many buyers of new Tesla's have been trading in 2 or 3 year old Tesla's rather than trying to sell them privately? Yes Ive heard a million times its cheaper to sell private and buy direct but lets face it most buyers of cars are'nt looking to start a new career in car sales and generally folk who buy new every 2 or 3 years tend to trade in.

Are Tesla sitting on a big stock of nice 2 year old Model 3's? If they are trading them on then you'd imagine they are missing out on a massive margin as the traders buyings used Tesla's are going to bid bottom book. Selling used cars has been a nice profit stream for them in the U.S. too.

They are all heavily overpriced, why does anyone buy from him

Tesla will eventually have to run a 2nd hand network though, right? They’ll have too many customers to ignore.

Kia/Hyundai/bmw etc can easily offer better trade-ins on Tesla’s in order to get people to switch.

Shifting a relatively expensive 2nd hand car is hard at the best of times - and tesla literally don’t want their own cars back.

I’m not really talking about the prices - that’s just market economics.

I'm more referring to the fact that if I want a 2nd hand €25-40k EV, 2-4yo, with a warranty, I can go to a main dealer.

in the case of Tesla, that’s not the case, nor will it potentially ever be the case in future.

You buy new and you f-off :)

It’s easy to tout the MY being the single biggest selling model in the world this year, but in 2-3 years time tesla won’t want one of their own cars back, but e.g. the local kia garage with an offer on a new ev6, will take it.

Not badly priced for a big battery sportline model. Low miles and 21” upgrade alloys. Must be a saving somewhere on importing one of these. https://www.donedeal.ie/view/34808447 Skoda Enyaq IV 80 Sportline

Tesla don't care about your car when you leave. I would think there isn't a great deal of profit for them to start taking trade ins. Buy the car, touch up any dings or marks. Take the scuffs from the alloys. Fix any trim or plastics then give it a valet. Then it sits in a lot somewhere and you have to advertise it online and hope for a buyer. Plus the fact you've to employ someone to do all that and take care of the sale.

Easier to have a website where you the punter decide what you want, spec it up and click to purchase.

Tesla are a technology company. You don't see Apple taking trade ins. They want you as a repeat customer buying new.

Wow!! Wasn't aware of that cause I'm an android fanboy 😂

That's what will happen. Somebody will become a Tesla specialist second hand retailer. Tesla aren't interested in doing it.

There are actually so many Model 3 Teslas on done deal. They all seem to be around the same price 38k or so. It's hard to know what value these cars are actually worth at the moment.

Well I can tell what they aren’t worth - and that’s €38k.

saw a €30k one pop up on carzone yesterday, a dealer with a 192. Still too much for a 4yo car that’s €41k new, but things are definitely resetting.

my neighbour paid €39k from a vw main dealer recently for a 221 ID4 77kw with less than 10,000km. There’s value in the 2nd hand market, but only where there was volume of new sales 2-3 years ago.

it’ll take another year or so for tesla prices to reflect reality - there’s only 40 m3’s for sale on carzone today, and almost 300 ID4’s.

the M3 has never been a volume seller in Ireland, much to everyone’s surprise I think. Until this year, it was around the top 25-35 best selling models.

when this years sales hit the 2nd hand market, we should start seeing far more volume and therefore lower prices due to the choice.

Difficult to become a 2nd hand Tesla specialist when they don't share any spare parts sales, vehicle specifications etc with third parties - virtually impossible to run repairs on them so no way you could run a business based on that, e.g how can you as a business offer a 12 month warranty on a car you cannot repair.

Sorry if this is a silly question - but I tuned off Model S / Model 3 discussion a while back when I settled for an ICE estate, and there were no electric estate cars at the time. However the situation is changing and I am starting to get more interested in this topic and 5 seats with plenty of space is probably my only requirement now (doesn't necessarily have to be an estate).

Assuming the used e-car prices continues to drop, if you were to pick between a decent 2016-2020 Model S and a decent 2019-2021 Model 3 at the same price (say around 20-25k), what would you go for? In other words, has there been so much technical innovation and/or software updates (that somehow Model S wouldn't get) from Tesla to make a compelling case for newer car over bigger older car?

Of course other models are also in my radar - but just curious about these two given the recent discussion and how Model 3 2024 is supposedly so much better and probably cheaper.. looks like everything is changing rapidly (and I am loving it).