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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    I have 15 acres of rushes and briars in need of tidy up. we're in organic's so spraying off not an option, so I'd set on using a mulcher to blitz through the lot of it. A lot of lads now telling me that they've only seen a stronger crop of rushes after mulching compared to topping them. I find mowing them just leaves them in clumps and rows letting nothing through. Any thoughts?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Is there any grass in the field, or is it 100% rushes and briars? If there was a pick of grass you could leave a few cows or older cattle in and they might trample some rushes. Happened here a few weeks back where a big circle of rushes in a field started to die back after cattle were lying in them and grazing in around them. Will be topping after the next grazing now whereas I thought I’d have no choice only to mulch before.

    Alternatively, you could mulch a few acres and see what it’s like after a month.

    Whatever you plan to do with it post “treatment” might also impact your approach now; e.g. will you reseed to grass and graze cattle or sheep on it, will you plant trees on it, do you plan on draining it, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,332 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    If ya had access to a weed licker it might be no harm to hit them after cutting when they are growing again. Yer at nothing though if it's wet land. They'll keep growing then



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    The man that owned it had it rented out for years so it wasn't well looked after. Between 6 - 8 horses on it the last 5 years. Before that it was rented out as a bit of grazing. Very little grass on it, drains all walked in so wet in a lot of places. I'll need it for grazing ground so need to get the grass back in it. about 30 years ago it had silage taken off part of it, effectively been 're-wilded' since it's been rented.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    It's wet in spots but nothing a bit of drainage wouldn't sort for the most part.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Ireland playing well. 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 🇮🇪



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I’ve been that solider trying to reclaim fields and ditches that were left to “rewild” by tenants.

    It will be a job of work and will cost you money but it’s worth it when you see a green working field emerge again.

    Take pictures before you start (throw them up here if you’re so inclined) and they’ll help show the progress being made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,110 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Cut and keep it cut. If you can remove the first heaving cut of rushes. Bale them if necessary.

    As you are in organics you cannot spray or even weed lick.

    Open the old drains and fence in the drains. If you can moleplough into the new drains. It's all about getting as much water out of the area as possible.

    It will take a few years to weaken the rushes by cutting but they will weaken. You want to top after every grazing. Rock phosphate which I think is organic and granulated lime may help as well. Do not spread either until mid spring. FYM as well will help

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Heard a few dubs on site today talking about the plan here to reduce the national herd and import beef from South America in turn clearing the rainforests out there. They couldnt believe it and werent overly sold on it, might be a small glimmer of hope that the urban dwellers of this country are starting to see through the smear campaign on Irish agriculture.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    You/they are completely correct, many years it was some battle to save enough hay for the winter, especially in the Western half of Ireland, different story in the East.

    Don't undervalue oral history. Some western first nations tribe did not value written history as it is too easy to lie with.

    Moo Moo Teamoo, all of my dreams come true…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭148multi


    Second this, have a couple of fields like this, have used mulcher which seemed like a good idea, but long term did not work out.

    Now top as early as possible and later top and bale, this has had best impact on controlling rushe. also mind it like a young child, if rain heading in I skip a rotation and graze early and get stock off, rearly let a big bank of grass build up. Once 5 days grazing builds I watch forecast .only let full crop build up in hot weather will put up pic of what has been achieved by 3 topping a year and one baling. A shot of slurry or fym in March, April or May seems to work best for me.

    This field was 80% rushes, used to grow high and fall over blocking most of the grass.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,039 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Came across this on facebook and I thought it was good 😂


    Son.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭Packrat


    By Jaysus all the trolls are out today.

    Must be the rain kep them in from picking kale and cycling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    That's me done with gambling for a long time.

    I was messing around online between yesterday and today on the phone with a betting website. Started off with a stake of 250. Eventually today got that up to 2200. But the thing is it's a game of snakes and ladders/inching forward. On the soccer betting that I was at. You have to bet big to win small. You could have 15 wins on the trot and it only takes one bad bet to bring you back. No matter spreading the risk and all that you can't vouch for the little guy on the field kicking the ball in the back of the net. Vanity had me thinking I nearly had it cracked and in a system. But the house always wins.

    It fecks up your day and you're stuck to the phone getting your next bet on or waiting for your pot to come back to get the next bet on.

    Nope. Nope. Nope. No.

    I can see why Pippa Hackett married a bookmaker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,039 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Don't feel too bad. I've been betting with rearing livestock for the last 40 years and haven't fared much better 😲



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭148multi


    Feel your pain 😂

    On a serious note, there's very good reasons why the US banned online gambling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Most of the other apprentices working with me have online accounts set up and are probably putting a few small bets on each day as its so easy. Definitly should be regulated or controlled a bit better imo. It will be interesting to see how these new betting machines will fare out here when they are introduced supposedly its similar to the TAB system set up in Australia and New Zealand.

    Better living everyone



  • Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My Sunday just brightened up 😄

    Toys out of the pram big time




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    He's just trying to draw attention to himself.

    Years ago if you were a bit vain you surrounded yourself with thugs and became a dictator.

    Nowadays you pick on farmers for effect and double down..

    *He sees the money and fame Monbiot is drawing for himself and wants that. During the Monbiot, Savoury twitter spat that Monbiot was setting up the showdown. Your man churlishly tried to butt in to get himself included in the showdown. Didn't work though. Monbiot saw through him and ignored him. He came out with this stunt here as his own consolation prize.

    *The ifa is his Belarus when he couldn't take Ukraine.



  • Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Absolutely, the martyrdom is strong in that one, all entirely selfless.

    I didn't know that about the Savory moonbat discussion.

    I have an idea what he's going to do next, but I'm not going to put it into words in case it hasn't been thought of!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    We both know what he'll do next. You can't stop that ego now it's in sixth gear and committed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Seems he has a book out, sales PR.


    If he genuinely believed that the IFA is a far right organisation, he must be deeply unwell or a complete fanatic.



  • Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He gave me a copy a good while ago. Apparently foxes don't take lambs and NPWS staff (maybe fire service too, it's been a long while since I read it) are the only ones that put out fires. I must have imagined large parts of my own life 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭davidk1394




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Congrats to the Limerick lads and lassies on here. They're some team. Enjoy the victory. I was in Limerick earlier and the place is buzzing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,332 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Some shower of lowlife wankstains graffitied the bejaysus out of my grannies place last night.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    He’s imagined large parts of his life too if he believes the IFA caused his downfall



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Sh1te. Not good. Especially on anyone elderly.

    Hope you're all OK. Especially granny and those responsible get what's coming to them from the law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,595 ✭✭✭zetecescort




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  • Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It shows the fragility of ego when he's reigned in by the bosses he can't abide staying in the job.



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