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This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Strong demand for parts / batteries for EVs, but very little supply. Hence high prices generally. I.e. I could only find one BMW i3 for parts in the country. Trainor's in the North nor Kilcock had one and neither had the biggest EV only dismantler (also in the North)

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,641 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    It hasn’t been repaired yet because its been purchased by a salvage dealer who do not repair cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,295 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Door, door pillar, A pillar, A pillar skin, dashboard, air bag, curtain air bag. Paint.


    Most likely the floor is also pushed in so there's potential for entire left side frame required.


    This is not a cheap repair at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,295 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    The passenger air bag has been cut away its clearly fired in the photos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    It's not that is the trim here below is a similar car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,295 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Galway ioniq for 13k asking looks to be sold, which is great news for me as my ioniq is similar and on done deal for 14995 in Dublin. Might not be bargain territory ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭lenoude


    Yeah it looks like I just missed it, devastated but to be fair it was up longer than I thought it would be.

    Yeah still looking, probably looked at yours so. Just out of reach unfortunately



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    If you want a good chance of a bargain, you need to be ready to purchase immediately when one comes up!


    There's still the Offaly high mileage one for €13k asking and there's one in Cavan, price just dropped to €13k


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-ioniq-2017/34296679


    Personally I would have a friendly chat with @zg3409 to see will he chop off a few bob and buy his car as it is the nicest of them all and was well minded with preventative maintenance done that most owners don't do or don't even know about. It looks like he's too modest to put the link up himself so I'll do that 😀

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-ioniq-28kwh-electric/34597512


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    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Casati


    Door is wide open and indeed it seems the window is open or gone- i.e. your looking at rain getting in so could have a lot more needing replacement or sorting



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    That blue ioniq is a cracker with some very nice spec

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭homah_7ft


    What kind of range would be reasonable to expect at 100KM/Hr? I know someone interested in moving to electric and doesn't do much mileage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I remember from the early days in Ioniq forums that people tested that and on a good day in summer (basically ideal circumstances) they got about 250km at 100km/h. In winter a lot less though, you won't make 200km. Still very good though given the battery is only 28kWh (available), the car is extremely efficient and very aerodynamic

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Ev Database quotes 190km real range from the 28kwh Ioniq. Same source quotes 350kms for the MY RWD - which we now know to be really accurate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Real range is an average for average use in an average country in average weather.

    @homah_7ft asked for range in very specific circumstances, namely at 100km/h in Ireland. I had mine for 3 years and compared my data with many hundreds of other people that incidentally had very similar experiences to what I had. At some point we had over 50 Ioniq 28kWh owners in the Ioniq thread here on boards.ie alone. And I base my advice on all that. But sure what would we know ;-)

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭homah_7ft


    Thanks. That's the information I was interested in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭zg3409


    It depends what you mean is reasonable.

    Summer at 100km/h 170/180/190km.

    Winter, temperature below 5 degrees, head wind, rain, worst case maybe 120km.

    Typically for all year round 140-160km at 100km/h but usually better.

    These are conservative cruise control set to 100km/h.

    I drove my car 5 days a week commute on M50 the entire length from Bray to Swords at 100km/h or 120km/h depending on the applicable speed limit. In fact I typically went 128km/h which is 120km real.

    It's an ideal car for a 100km+ commute as you save a fortune on fuel, and still have spare range in the evenings for trips to shops. It also typically charges twice as fast as a leaf on a 50kW charger meaning you are away after 20 minutes versus 40 minutes. (not a full charge, just a fast top up to give you another 100km)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Leaf is steady 43kW on a 50kW charger, can't see how you can get 86kW on a 50kW charger

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    That's more like it, and matches EVDB very closely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭AmpMan


    Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Casati


    I see on that 2017 the owner is saying battery is showing 100% State of Health, is it feasible that the battery has'nt degraded at all in 7+ years/ 100km+?

    I had heard 20% drop after 1000 cycles would be typical - is that totally wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭loopymum


    The 28k ioniq is actually 31. That's why ioniq owners don't see degradation for a long time.

    The 20 percent drop after 1000 cycles is probably more leaf territory.

    Not a chance my ioniq would ever get 250km range at 100kmp.

    I live in a hilly County though but still.

    Zg3409 gives a more accurate description of range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,144 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Jaysus, can’t see that sort of range if I’m honest.

    I’m a fairly light footed driver, and even in the recent warm weather, my GOM has shown 235km.

    Maybe you meant 150km @ 100km/h? Think that ties in with my own experience from when I collected the car.



  • Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,725 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    My experience of the Ioniq range was going Cork -> Dungarvan and back with 20-50km range left over. That's 160km on a road with 100 and briefly 120km/hr driving. I traveled it plenty of times, so that'd be about 180-210km range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,114 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Hills were not mentioned by the guy asking the question. Or bad weather, or winter temps, etc.

    Ioniq will do 180km at 120km/h (16kWh / 100km) and 250km at 100km/h (11kWh / 100km) in perfect weather at constant speeds on the flat. I stand by that. Obviously driven to empty not having some sort of buffer at hand that distorts any comparison. But that's for an experienced and smooth EV driver (not using hypermiling techniques), not driven by a crude tool like cruise control. Also when the car was new, early Ioniqs are now nearly 7 years old, so will have some range limitations

    A dude in Germany got 433km out of Ioniq with 3.5% SOC remaining (iirc) while hypermiling the car on public country roads. NEDC 280km, WLTP and EPA about 200km. I wish I had held onto mine for a few months longer to prove to some doubting Thomasses that it can easily do 300km range in Ireland in summer when driving gently on country roads. I replaced mine with a first gen Tesla Model S performance which uses at least 50% more electricity - if taking it handy 😂

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Isn't hills, bad weather, and winter temps what constitutes 'real range' at the end of the day? 😂

    Odd that EVDB got it so wrong with the stats on this model - they seem so close with other EV models.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    No repair involving the replacement or straightening of welded on components of the monocoque, insurance or otherwise will return a car to 100%, they can not replicate the factory rust proofing where the shell is dipped, as for insurance repairs being expensive, still does not mean it is done to the letter, the out of sight out of mind stuff won't raise its head for sometime, then there are lots of cars that are sold on damaged and repaired by a third party too.



  • Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know that I've said that I don't like the Ioniq but, honestly, I would have bought one a few years back if I didn't have to do a Cork/Dublin run more that occasionally, for work.

    If I have to be in the office for 08:30 I just could not face leaving even earlier, just to be able to charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭djan


    I think it's important to consider the impact of external conditions and driving style on EV range, given that it can lead to huge fluctuations as users compare to each other.

    High temperature (for Ireland), flat open road and no winds may lead to the wild ranges quote for the likes of Ioniq28. At the end of the day it's a low range EV that is better suited to set mileage travel like commuting with inter county trips being severely limited.



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  • Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,725 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    How is that (4 claims against Tesla) not its own thread?


    I lol'd when I seen Unkels last post did in fact mention Teslas. It was too good to turn down.

    Unkel did call you a coward though... maybe read the grey on that one 🙈. Bit of an OTT reaction 🙄

    Gotta take some posters posts very literally some times, and others you have to learn to read the grey



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