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Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Got mine too I'm very happy compared to what I was paying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭jkforde


    after the initial sign-up email, how long did it take for it to come into effect? ~2 weeks? just so we know what to expect

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I signed up on the 20th of April and gave a meter reading on signing up, got my first bill yesterday and that was the start meter reading, in other words the fixed rate starts from your submitted reading.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    it takes reading u submitted while registering…



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I'd imagine the provider you leave gives them the reading on your final bill too?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    yes last reading and first reading will match on old and new provider



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Ah-Watch


    I just recontracted with Energia last week. 42.14c p/u inc VAT and a standing charge of 300.91 inc VAT. I'd be mad not to move right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    depends if you are on a smart meter or what your usage is like, do your sums and see what's the better option for you

    waterpower or flogas using the big link are the current movers and shakers

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭bren2001


    You're in the cooling off period. It's free to move. Yes, you'd be mad not to switch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I'd be gone like a rocket, might start putting manners on these fcukers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,030 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    I'm with electric Ireland since late October. On a standard plan, no night rates or anything like that.

    I own 18 solar panels, no battery.

    Does anyone think it's worth switching to Flogas now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭iknorr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    its a special offer for their staff





    information needs to be spoon fed to people in this day and age, the future is bleak

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Ye, 42c.14 Vs 29.99c p/u on Flo BWG and similar standing charge is a no brainer, unless you want to give Energia €100s more for nothing. I'd be gone like a shot, which is exactly what I did do myself when it was first posted.

    Depends what 'deal' you're getting now if any. Presumably you're paying 40+c p/u at the moment? If so, yes. Also, if you're set up to get FIT from your solar panels, Flo have the best rates for that at the moment.

    Large businesses get much greater discounts than Joe Public, they've done a deal with Flo to pass on some of that discount to anyone 'affiliated' with them. If you've ever shopped in Spar, Mace, Value Centre, and various others, you're 'affiliated' with them in my opinion. Not that that even matters, as it's open to absolutely anyone to sign up.

    Post edited by Buffman on

    The below is a general 'signature' and not part of any post:

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Eleusis


    Do businesses get a better deal? I have a business and a residential connections and from my experience business electricity is consistently more expensive. Maybe just big companies have it cheaper?

    Possible they just have some kind of deal flogas to be able to offer it as a perk for their employees



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Large businesses with multiple premises do get better deals. I've edited it accordingly. I guarantee they're not loosing money at those rates, which just shows how overpriced the others are at the moment.

    Anyway, I'm not too bothered by the how and the why of the deal, it's saving me €100s and that's all that matters! 🤣😂👍️

    The below is a general 'signature' and not part of any post:

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭bren2001


    The ESB and EirGrid are probably two of the best run state businesses. They are actually world class at what they do. I have worked with several TSO's and Electricity companies for research across the world. They are both absolutely fantastic compared to other international organisations. Nobody is better then them (plenty just as good). Just because they are government owned means they are bad. We do have some good ones here too.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Ah-Watch


    The reason I was hesitating was that for whatever reason I never recontracted on a discount this year like I usually would until last week. My meter hasn't been read in a few cycles and when I recontracted Energia said they'd backdate the discount by 90 days and issue a credit and given that when I looked at the online bill estimater the other day I am under billed by about 500e I was thinking maybe I'm better to let it run into the contract and pay the early exit fee before switching. Maths isn't my strong point but I think even with all that I would save somewhere in the region of 500e over the year even after paying switching fee and paying the final bill with a proper reading.


    Really what was throwing me was - WHY wouldn't someone move and HOW are all other companies charging so much more. It was more of a thinking out loud question from me in case there was a gotcha.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭bren2001


    If you can afford to pay off what you owe to energía in one go, do it. It is better in the long term. In the short term, staying with energía is better for your cash flow. Nobody can really advise because only you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭tx_tx


    If I understand them right, they could have a certain % discount applied to this 500e retrospectively, in a way. If that's a high % (30-40), it would be well worth paying the 50e exit fee to get it. But these days, a high % is unlikely. Even if Energia offers a 20% discount, which would be quite good by today's standards, after the exit fee, it'd only be a 50e saving. And that small saving could be wiped out in just one bill, compared to what they'd pay with a better deal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,030 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Thanks Buffman. I think the penalty will be 50 quid only. I'm currently in profit with Electric Ireland from the return to grid. Wonder will I lose that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭jkforde


    of course not, they're legally obligated to give outstanding CEG payments to you. if they don't in a reasonable period after leaving then, lodge an official complaint to the CRU attaching your attempts to get it off them and all correspondence, then they'll pay promptly.

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Yeah, I misread it. You're right. Get the discount from Energia and then switch makes sense. If he's outside the 14 day cooling off period already, then theres no real need to wait. The deal was done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭samo


    I was with Energia and had 700 in credit between gas and electricity (!!), last bills came out the credit, sent them a mail from website for gas and electricity with account no and it was credited to bank account with 3 days.

    So was very straight forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭jkforde


    this behaviour, which should be the normal standard in the industry, is why I wish I could stay with them but alas...

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Flo BWG links look to be dead again, looks like the people who rang on Friday and were told the deal was over were correct. Hopefully it'll come back soon for anyone who missed out.

    The below is a general 'signature' and not part of any post:

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,138 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I signed up on friday night. STILL waiting to here back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Fantastic. Spotted this thread last week and planned to sign up for bwg offer today, now link dead.

    I read here that people that were on smart tariffs have trouble signing up to bwg? Im still on standard tariff and am wondering is it worth now seeing if a similar offer comes back instead of maybe getting some discount from EI for switching to smart etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭Buffman


    If you wanted the BWG 'smart' plan you had to ring them, wasn't available online.

    What discount do you expect to get from EI for moving to 'smart'? From what I can see, all they're offering at the moment is a paltry 5.5% on anything, smart or normal. Do your actual usage sums very carefully before committing to a smart plan would be my advice, a once you switch 'smart', you can't go back.

    The below is a general 'signature' and not part of any post:

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.

    You don't have to take a 'smart' meter if you don't want one, opt-out is available.

    Buy drinks in 3L or bigger plastic bottles or glass bottles or cartons to avoid the DRS fee.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Oh without doubt. I won't make any change unless I know for sure there savings to be made based on the actual usage.

    Does being on a smart tariff preclude you from switching to non smart tariffs with other providers?



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