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The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    He's up there for sure. Not the most skillful. Not the fastest. Makes up for it with his leadership qualities. Probably the most consistent player i've seen play for Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,337 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Derry will park a very large red bus in the semi final, hope Kerry manage to break them down and thrash them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭pimpmyhat


    They will still have to outscore kerry, won't be easy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,760 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    He deserves to captain Dublin to an AI. A great servant and fantastic footballer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,218 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Does anyone think if Cork were not caught out celebrating their goal allowing Derry to reply quickly- Cork might have won?

    I thought it was a pity Hurley was clearly not himself, thought it could get really interesting

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,061 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Kerry and Dublin have a free flowing forward line that nobody can cope with.

    They are the only 2 teams don't need 20 passes around the "D" before shooting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Well done Dublin, deserving winners today.

    Absolutely dominated MF in the second half and we had no answers. The 2nd goal was soft from our point of view and combined with our miss shortly after, really killed us.

    Conroy & ROD had the Dublin FB line in trouble in the 1st half - they'll need to do something about that if they're to win the AI IMO but I'd have them favourites now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,215 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    What a fvckin player.

    I'm not a Dublin fan, but this guy has been amazing. He's done it all, always turns up on the big day, and in the last couple of years while several of their established guys were slightly below their normal high standards, he was probably their best championship player even when the team was less than 100%.

    There has been several all time greats involved with this Dublin era, buy this guy is among the very best to play the game. Often is in the shadow of the likes of Cluxton, Kilkenny, Fenton, Jack Mc, even Mick Fitz, but if you want someone to go I to the trenches with, he's the man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    I think it was about 15 mins in, he got a yellow card, panting, sweat dripping off him. I was thinking he'd be lucky to make it to half time.

    Then he takes control of the whole game...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,914 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Tradition did change about 60 years ago. By 1961 Dublin had 26 Leinster football titles and 23 Leinster hurling titles. Only one more since, but with 24 they are still second in Leinster ahead of Wexford on 21.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Mate bit rich coming from you when you used to reply to every comment I ever made.

    Easy win for Dublin today and the semi final should be another straight forward win although closer as Monaghan park the bus.

    Regards Dublin, the only thing done in spite was the gaa's plan to have Dublin win the AI at the expense of other counties in particular Leinster. Why would I be happy about that?

    As for Dublin as a county I support your hurlers in Leinster along with Wexford so make of that what you want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,215 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    He was probably lucky not to get a black for that challenge, a deliberate enough pull down by the shoulders, but after that he was the best player in the field. His leap for the second half throw in set the tone and he ran the show for most of the second period.


    McStay's buddies on the SG panel not questioning Mayo's selection, setup or strategy at all. Huge question marks in my view, chief among them them building a defence around a forward (Loftus) and an attack around Aidan, both of whom were quickly jettisoned as soon as things got serious, and going toe to toe/man on man against Dublin, which they clearly weren't able for. It's great to be positive about a good Dublin performance, but Mayo lacked soicj cohesion and composure at both ends of the field.


    A sma cameo for Kevin McLoughlin today. A great trier and a brilliant player for Mayo for years. Will we see him again? I would doubt it, but he's always carried himself well over many years. He owes Mayo nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,753 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Fair play to Kerry and Dublin.

    The quality they have should make a great final.

    Derry, Monaghan and Mayo least can be competitive but the standard from the rest is abysmal.

    The basic skills even are so below what you would expect.

    Football has really always been just the big two and rest just having their wins here and there just the standard now is as big as its been since 70s and even 80s. Huge gap.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,377 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Beg to differ on football, this weekends fare was poor, pulling ,dragging, tripping, neck high ‘tackles’ that would get red cards in rugby.

    Far too much passing back and sideways and the ‘trick’ now seems to be charge at a defender with the ball, fall down and get a free.

    Not a good watch even though both Kerry and Dublin at least tried to play and played very well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,337 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Great crowd at that Comogie match in Ennis 🙄.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,337 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Derry and Monaghan will be puke to watch in the Semi Finals, hope Kerry and Dublin hammer them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,775 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Agree. I thought the standard of attacking play was very poor from some of the teams



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Some whine from McGeeney.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭bop1977


    Does anyone else think it’s a bit crap that the tailteean cup final is the under card to the Dublin Monaghan semi final in two weeks time.


    how can croke park say they want the second tier cup but it seems they just want to fill croker that weekend



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,355 ✭✭✭doc_17


    It should and it is. But 3 games in 3 weeks is stupid. It will become the same as the 6 day turnaround in the qualifier system. That was, eventually, widely recognised as being unfair. Only idiots who want to keep the status quo will say that there’s no problem with the 3 games in 3 weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,914 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Mayo, Sligo and Wicklow had 4 games in 4 weekends earlier in the year. One week between games in the League and the Championship is very common.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,904 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Derry, Monaghan and Mayo least can be competitive but the standard from the rest is abysmal.


    I don't see that those teams, Monaghan in particular, are so far ahead of the rest of the top ten or so; they just got the bounce of the ball in big games. If Armagh had slotted one more of their penalties would they be a significantly weaker opponent for Dublin in the semi? If Galway had taken a couple more easy scoring chances against Mayo in the prelim would they have taken a bigger hammering from the Dubs today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    The 3 group games and preQF should happen over 4 weekends, then a two week gap to QF.

    It would mean the group winners would have a 3 week break and the other qualifiers would have a two week break. Its still an advantage to top the group

    Not sure of it would have really changed things this weekend, but would at least have the best teams playing each other at more equal fatigue levels (in theory at least)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,218 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Intertresting question. I honestly think Monaghan are a team who play to their max based on the players available they make their own luck consistently. It is a combination of tactical, management, mental and skill. Based on players available.

    It cannot be a fluke that Monaghan constantly show up against ‘experts’ favoured teams. League and championship. I know clowns like Brolly sneer at Monaghan’s success in the league. But that is just jealousy IMO.

    Armagh do the exact opposite. The only consistent credit I would give Armagh is that they have nicer jerseys than Monaghan.

    I would disagree on the ‘big two’ Dublin were nowhere near second for large periods of their existence. When Heffernan took over Dublin were a laughing stock. Poor crowds low interest. The feeling from players was that they would be embarrassed to say they were from Dublin!

    From about the late 90’s until 09 Dublin were again a laughing stock. Even in the 80’s Dublin were more competitive Dublin only won one all Ireland. Only one all Ireland in the 90’s with a few hard luck stories.

    But I remember reading a few years ago who the county is that lost the most AI’s ? The answer shocked/annoyed me. The answer is Kerry! Now that is consistent!

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,218 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I think it is a good thing gives the T Cup some profile. Let’s Monaghan and Dublin fans see how the weaker counties are progressing. And I am sure some of those fans will lend their support to the participants.

    The other alternative would be put the T cup in Parnell Park full house but a smaller low profile venue. How many neutrals would go?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,218 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    But that then stretches the championship out even longer exactly what the GAA does not want.

    Plus I don’t buy into this fatigue thing. Only used as an excuse for teams when they lose. Lazy explanation given by Gooch for Mayo. But even McStay admitted it was Mayo’s own fault they got themselves in the position.

    Plus you know and I know, if a team with shorter turn around wins what will be said? Oh ‘‘twas the ‘momentum’. They can spin it anyway.

    Simply put if a team wants a longer turnaround top the AI series group and don’t be fluting around. Treat each game seriously.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Don't think Mayo need to be told they wasted their big chance to top their group once they beat Kerry away in round 1. That's not the point of the argument though, most supporters especially neutrals watching wants to see competitive All Ireland Quarter finals the likelihood of that ever happening when one Quarter finalists is playing their 3rd match in 14 days and the other is rested for a week was slim.

    GAA have already looked getting rid of pre-season comps and league finals. I would expect common sense to prevail for next year with a two week gap between the Prem Quarter final and the AI Quarter final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,215 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Would you prefer they went out ball headed and got hammered by double figures and provide 'entertainment' like Mayo did?

    Teams have to set up as they see fit, to give themselves a chance to win. Pats on the head and platitudes about 'playing the game the right way' butter no parsnips to be honest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Tailteann cup final has suddenly become very unappealing for Meath fans. What should have felt like a celebration of football if we were put before Kerry and Derry now feels like hassle.

    First of all tickets be hard to get as demand for Dublin v Monaghan will be a lot higher then Kerry v Derry and it will likely be sold out well in advance.

    Secondly when are the GAA going to realise Meath fans don't like playing as the curtain raiser to the Dubs? Many would rather stay at home then listen to the abuse which will come from the most arrogant fans in the GAA. And the thought of buying a hill 16 ticket suddenly becomes very unattractive.

    I think I speak for any Meath fan who was thinking of going, playing before Kerry and Derry on Sunday would have been ideal.



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