The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

Interesting after the game Vinnie Corey said they didn't practice penalties he simply chose the five fellas he trusted the most to take them.

Anyone with a couple of spare juvenile tickets?

Did you ever hear the expression you make your own luck. McGeeney is not unlucky neither was Peter Keane

Place kicking was average. Goalies were tired. Demand on a Gas Goalie now is totally different to a soccer goalie. He up and down the pitch and needs flexibility training as well. Place kicking was solid but not spectacular.

No amateur player should be put in a position where he missed two out of his team’s nine penalties. It’s just moronic that they make the same 5 go again.

Very predicable easy win for Kerry. A lot of pundits totally lost the run of themselves during the week building this up as a close game.

Tyrone should have been eliminated two weeks ago by a team that couldn't get out of division 3 in the league. It was talked about like Tyrone were imbued with some sort of inherent Kerry kryptonite, when they're just an average team in bad form now.

I hope not.

Kerry would win that comfortably.

I want Kerry vs the winners of Mayo/Dublin.

Yep he has not improved any team he was with, including Kildare. Never pushing on a level just stagnates. Getting them fit is the height of it.

The only reason McGeeney is there IMO.Because of the myth that built up around his playing career. A bang average manager at best.

Today’s games I think Derry will be too streetwise for Cork all hinges on that Derry midfield. Derry’s structure will certainly keep it tight. But Cork have a habit of loading their bench. It should be an interesting last half hour.

I would have Mayo as favourites against Dublin. The number of Dublin danger men is diminishing. And these days Dublin play a lot of one dimensional stuff not much movement. Not much on the bench either.

Dublin’s main hope is that Mayo lose it between the ears. Because on paper Mayo have a much better vibrant overall team. Plus I don’t think Dublin have it in them to smoother a game- a tactic which Mayo hate.

The two B’s in the Dublin forward line Bugler/Basquel have been doing well. From a Dublin perspective. I hope they keep the levels up today.

The two B’s in the Dublin forward line Bugler/Basquel have been doing well

Big day for those two - they've flattered to deceive for a couple of years now but they've been much better in the last few games; today will tell whether they're ready to graduate into the shoes of the 2010s team or maybe they are just not at that level

Re the tie breaker and penalties...

For a start, lads need to get over the 'too much like soccer' - if an idea suits our gsmes and improves it then we should steal it from wherever.

That said, penalties are not a core skill of gealic. A better way IMHO would to have a similar 5 v 5 format, but instead of a penalty from the ground the player starts his run inside the D and has to shoot outside the 20 meter line from the hands, on the run as he would in a 1 v 1 on the goalie in the game. It would mirror game play better than the penalty shoot out.

Derry and Dublin for me too. Possibly 2 fairly comfortable wins.

Nice deflection from what I said because you know it's true. The only odd thing is dubs like you pretending Dublin are underdogs in most matches these days or that it could be close in matches you're likely to win by 10/20 points. Very odd.

I really don't understand this narrative that I've seen so often this week, that Armagh are such a better team than Monaghan that they should have been seeing them off - and the analysis after is about what Armagh should have done to win. What have Armagh actually achieved in order to gain this faith from people?

Monaghan just always seem to be looked down on by people for some strange reason. I doubt they'll be winning the AI but they are a very well drilled outfit, with plenty of top level experience, and have plenty of individual quality throughout their team. They deserve alot more respect than what they get, and not just the patronising "punching above their weight" shite that is always condescendingly thrown at them.