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General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,361 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    There's rumours of a PL boss being questioned by police yesterday on suspected sexual assault...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Gary O'Neill sacked by Bournemouth. Disgusting decision. Hopefully relegated next season



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    Yea, if O'Neil wasn't the manager questioned over an alleged sexual assualt on a teenage girl yesterday last week then he must be particular passed off about the timing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Xander10




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Very unlikely he was. The report said that the manager in question was managing a London club at the time of the alleged offence. As far as I know Bournemouth is O'Neils first managerial position?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Bournemouth sacking O'Neil is not something I saw coming. They must have someone lined up because to say he overachieved compared to peoples expectations is an understatement and if they have not got someone very good taking over this could be a move that ends up costing them as I think a lot of people are already tipping them to struggle again next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme





    From what I've read the incident happened years ago when the person worked at a non Premier league organisation. I've not seen any reference to the person being a manager at thet organisation, or even if it was a football club.


    If it isn't O'Neil then it's a terrible time to sack him.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Mod: Please no speculating as to who the person in the above linked article might be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭jacool


    Andoni Iraola just announced as new manager of Bournemouth!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    He did a decent job to get the results at the right time but he still had a win percentage less than 30 and was hardly doing anything revolutionary. Bournemouth may feel that his impact has already run its course. It'll be hard to take for him though.

    Simon Harris is monitoring the situation...



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    andoni iraola 


    2018–2019AEK Larnaca

    2019–2020 Mirandés

    2020–2023Rayo Vallecano


    Have Rayo Vallecano been pulling up trees or something ? finished 11th in La Liga (same points as Girona in 10th and Sevilla in 12th), lost 4 of their last 5 games and he left them at the end of the season when his contract ran out.


    Maybe he is really highly rated and it is no surprise that he was already lined up cos otherwise that move would be completely mad but O'Neil can definitely feel hard done by here. At least if it was a huge name he could understand it.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    You do know that 11th is a huge achievement for Rayo right?

    He brought them up from the Segunda two years ago and finished 12th and then 11th, when they were tipped for relegation both times, along with making he Copa Del Rey semi finals for only the second time in their history.

    He may not be famous, but he did fantastically well with Rayo.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    I assumed it was a fantastic achievement (not really been following La Liga closely enough to know where they had been the past several years) but then again so is 15th for Bournemouth.


    To be honest this is probably what the fans should want if O'Neil was to be taken away then, not just a name but an ambitious move for a well thought of manager who has already overachieved with a smaller team in a top flight league.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,567 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Just seen on Twitter that with the Iraola appointment, one fifth of Premier League managers are from the same province in the Basque region of Spain; Gipuzkoa. 4 managers in the best league in the world from a population of a little over 700,000.

    Love those crazy little stats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,549 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Something similar to Ferguson, Shankley, Busby, Stein and Dagleish being from within 15 mile radius of Glasgow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Xabi Alonso's from there too and impressing so far at Leverkusen.

    Iraola was manager at Mirandes in 2020 when they got the semis of the Copa del Rey. They were recently-promoted to the second division and knocked out Celta, Sevilla and Villarreal before losing to Real Sociedad who won it.

    He's won a lot of praise at Rayo. Didn't Leeds tru to sign him when they sacked Marsch?

    I feel sorry for O'Neil. He was thrust into the job and over-achieved given what he had available to him. I can only imagine they felt a better option was available. I don't think he'll have trouble getting another job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭doc_17


    By avoiding relegation, O’Neil triggered an automatic contract extension. So, hopefully the terms of that include a full pay out of the remainder of that contract.

    But on a wider point, even succeeding isn’t saving these managers now. Bournemouth took their foot off the gas when they got to their target, lost their last 5 games? Might have an impact on how managers in a similar position act in the season ahead as sometimes that form is carried trough to the start of the next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Gundogan away to Barcelona. That’ll hurt a bit. Hopefully Silva, Walker, Rodri, Mahrez aren’t far behind him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Looks like they’re coming up with new ways to circumvent the FFP rules. PIF have bought 4 clubs in the Saudi league and even though they aren’t majority owners at Chelsea through their relationship with the front that owns Chelsea they’ll be in a position to buy surplus Chelsea players for big money to get them out of any possible FFP trouble they’ve dug themselves into. Also chat that one of the Saudi clubs have bought Neves from Wolves and might then loan him to Newcastle; again to circumvent the rules.

    Gary Neville is complaining about it but he’s only moaning because it might mean the power of SKY and the EPL will have to be shared with Saudi Arabia and Qatar etc.



  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think people are seriously underestimating how big the Company that owns Chelsea are and how small the PIF investment in that Company is. This is 2+2=7000 stuff



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭doc_17


    I’d be very surprised if the Neves thing is true. Surely they wouldn’t be that stupid to try something like that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,335 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    In any case, I though NU were sound from a FFP perspective given they've spent relatively little in the last 5 years?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Doesn’t matter whatever Chelsea are at is dodgy as eff, Arab involvement or not. In England the Arab involvement is the bogeyman but Chelsea are most certainly bent regardless.

    Post edited by TheCitizen on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭TheCitizen



    https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/22/football-transfer-rumours-newcastle-ruben-neves-sadio-mane

    You’d be surprised? The guy’s making the rules have been playing catch up for years, the perpetrators whether it’s Man City or Chelsea or now Newcastle have always been several steps ahead.

    Go on the Newcastle thread there, their fans there are particularly brazen about Newcastle becoming competitive via extremely nefarious means.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    If that goes through, the premier league has eaten themselves and lost any remaining control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I think your underestimating how much money the Saudi's can burn, they were willing to give Messi 1bn over 2 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    I think some EPL fans indulge in a lot of “nothing to see here” stuff. They’ve become used to it and immune.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,108 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I think his point is that the Saudi investment in Clearlake (who own 60% of Chelsea) is less than 5% of the fund, so their connection to Chelsea is quite small.

    its something the league could really do with gaining more public closure on though, so everyone knows where that deal stands.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,748 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Yeah the Saudi/Chelsea thing is really overblown.

    Chelsea have a comically bloated squad after Boehly's mad January and the returning loanees. Meaning they have a hape of surplus big name rubbish.

    Saudi Arabia want to sign big name players and have more money than sense and dont give a fùck.

    It makes sense Chelsea would be their first port of call as that is where there are a large surplus of overpaid big name trash.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭joeyboy11


    This. And also I think it's about a total of 50 million in transfer fees for Koulibaly, ziyech and mendy which sounds about right in terms of market value.



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