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The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    You mean this spear tackle where Walsh instigates the tussle by grabbing O'Hora? As the saying goes if you don't start nothing there won't be nothing





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Why was I expecting a general football discussion thread would be anything other than a Mayo discussion thread #864?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    The ref can write in his report that he hasn't fully dealt with it or can write a clarification anytime this week that he it needs to be looked at again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    What is the word on the ground with Mayo fans? Confident of beating Galway or worried?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    They'll have a "Which Mayo player is playing for which Chicago club" thread on Sunday evening.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Galway Mayo always a 50/50 game or thereabouts.

    Probably more 60/40 in favour of Galway for this one with them playing at home and being a lot of people's favourites for Sam before the weekend.

    Youd also have to worry about Mayo playing against extremely defensive teams.Who knows maybe Galway might take a risk against Mayo for once and play a bit of football.

    Great to have Probably the two biggest rivals at present in the sport go head to head in do or die old fashioned championship game.Live on RTE,the whole country will be watching,could go to penalties on the day!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Yeah I was just about to say before I read the full post whole country will be watching, it was a clash I wanted anyway! I was thinking the clash sort of reminds me of the buzz when Derry and Down were drawn against each other in Ulster in an early round back in the 90's.

    I know Galway and Mayo have not won Sam recently unlike those two Ulster 90's sides i mentioned. But it has that 'cream of the crop' feel to it. Mayo the most consistent team of the last 20 years league, championship always there or thereabouts. Galway with the strong club football, underage success and having been slowly building a team to get to this point.

    Whoever loses it is going to be absolutely sickened and no doubt will be receiving stick from the other crowd for a whole year.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭Robson99


    And Mayo dont ever play with 15 behind the ball. I have to laugh at this notion that Mayo play lke they are the Harlem Globetrotters. Comical



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    In fairness they don't to nearly the same extent as other teams. They always went man-for-man even against Dublin in their prime.

    Galway have been far more of a blanket defense team for the past 10 years but you'll rarely hear than in the cliched commentary on the Sunday Game - all you'll hear is about 'nice footballers' and 'handy forwards'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Not confident at all, we struggle against teams that pull everyone inside their own half, Galway and Derry are the two worst opponents we could get in the championship, at least it's not in McHale Park where there's no space.


    If we changed 6 we'd have some hope but they seem to have hung their hat on Loftus, he's nowhere near good enough at CB



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Ah the thing about Galway is they adapt even peak Dublin used to funnel fellas back. Galway have come along way from a a div2 final they played against Kildare a few years back CP. Where both sides sat looking at each other and neither seemed to want the ball. Galway has been a slow evolution and they are definitely making use of what they have.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Not a Mayo or Galway fan, I'd imagine injuries on the Galway side could have an impact with Sean Kelly, Comer and McHugh all injury worries (as far as I know). Both with full teams, I'd probably just about go for Galway, but injuries could swing it towards Mayo. Looking forward to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Good post Green & Red. As harmless as it was, Shane Walsh was sorry he started that little shemozzle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    Missing Kelly, Comer and McHugh is a huge boost for Mayo's chances. Counting the fact that Silke is still not back with the panel and Molloy is still a way's off match sharpness Galway could be lining out with just two backs that started the All-Ireland final. Then you have the huge issues with forwards like Walsh, Tierney, Finnerty and Ian Burke being out of form.

    I think talk of Galway being favourites is very dismissive of Mayo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    If Kelly and Comer are out or even just subs, I think Mayo have a good chance. I know it shouldn't just come down to 2 players, but if they do start (Kelly in particular), it will so much tougher. Kelly is the main man on that team, and it’s his runs up field that drive on the team, and works as a distraction to allow other forwards to get a yard on their men. Without that leadership, I think they will be very ordinary at the back. I think Padraic Joyce will hold off on naming them anyway. And it puts Mayo in a dilemma in terms of game plan, if they then see Kelly lining up at full back at 3 bells on the Sunday, and Comer in at 14.

    If it comes to height and strength etc. I would worry about our lads around the midfield area – Galway have some athletic but also ballplayers in there – Cooke, Conroy, Maher, McDaid etc. That will be a tough one for Mayo. Pushing up on the kickout and forcing Gleeson to go long may not be the best option for Mayo in the long run. Hopefully we can get more game time out of Tommy Conroy, and Cillian O’Connor to be introduced for the last 20. If we can get Sam Callinan and Enda Hession back to their league form, it will be a huge plus.

    I don’t know what will happen. All of the above are if, buts, and maybes. But I cannot wait for it. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Isn't it fairly accepted that Comer will play? Nobody in Mayo believing otherwise.

    We saw the knock Kelly took and I'd say he's 50/50

    PJ has consistently down the years brought players back early or played them while injured.Im thinking particularly Comer off the bench heavily strapped recently.Or the same player vs Mayo in 2020 Covid Connaught final when he limped onto the pitch and was gassed by the time he got into position

    Comer will absolutely play some part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭HBC08


    The last time Galway tried to play football against Mayo was early in PJ'S management in the Covid League game in Tuam in October 2020.Mayo scored 2-17.....in the first half!

    That was a steep learning curve for PJ and the last time they didn't go full shawl versus Mayo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Avon8


    Exactly. The league final was basically 55 mins plus of Mayo with 14/15 behind the ball and Galway probing badly around the edges. Galway played their part in it by being way too slow with their transition but still, there was only one team leaving two up at all times.

    This is Mayo's to lose anyway. If they can't beat Galway with Galway probably missing 4 starters, then they're going nowhere. Home advantage means zero in this one. If anything its the other way, most Galway fans would prefer Castlebar and most Mayo fans seem to think they'll have a better chance in Salthill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Avon8


    That time half the country knew ye were training away during total lockdown? Horan really paid no repect to covid restrictions did he? From sneaking extra backroom members into the 2020 final, to the infamous kit van incident in Sligo, to lockdown training twice

    To be honest, it was more fool Joyce that year, throwing a team together after 6 months that had barely looked at each other before. Thankfully he's slowly losing his naivety



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭Robson99


    I agree that Galway play defensive. But Mayo can also play with 15 behind the ball. Mayos problem is they dont have the forwards to break down defensive structures. Dublin & Kerry will also play defensive when they have to. The difference is that they can break down oppositions set ups



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Lionel Fusco


    God it's an awful pity the two of them can't be knocked out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭MfMan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Was speculation that the All Ireland Quarter finals would be played in provincial venues this year but not so as its confirmed this afternoon that all 4 will be played in Croke Park on July 1st and 2nd



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    You must have been watching a different league final to me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭crusier


    Maybe he's not using your rose tinted glasses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Possibly, but you'd need to factor in that the winning team is out again 6/7 days later - and playing one of the top teams in the country. Does the manager risk everything for the Mayo match - with Comer or Kelly worsening an already bad situation. Or does he hold them back, and hope to God they get past Mayo, and that both make a full recovery by the following weekend. It's a tough dilemma.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭crusier


    It would be a gamble but I think Galway should rest Kelly and Comer even if they are near fitness. Take the gamble or introduce them late in the game. If we get through we should be strong for the quarter final if we get there, I think there's enough depth in the squad to beat this Mayo team without Kelly and Comer, Galway have the forwards and it's time they clicked. Mayo have been over achieving for way too long and it's caught up with them recently. Mayo will target Walsh again for off the ball attention I've no doubt, hopefully there's a strong ref for this match. Hernon in for Kelly at fullback where he did a great job v Heslin in Rd 2 , Maher into mid field, Sweeney to half back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Galway need more firepower than that in the full forward line.

    They replaced Comer on Sunday with Sweeney and obviously he doesn't play inside. Galway's play followed the same trend, very very indirect.

    We need a lad to replace Comer who'll show for the ball. Culhane maybe.

    Anyway I expect Comer to play some part. He'll be risked.

    Kelly to me is a bigger loss. He's so direct and creates or scores such important scores. I can't see him being right, doubtful even for a quarter final. Even if he does return he surely wouldn't be right for a serious amount of galloping up the field.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Carol25


    Am surprised the Galway v Mayo match hasn’t sold out yet.



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