Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

You are grasp onto edge cases here to avoid the question, it's getting tiring now. Relying on super rare cases or accidents like you mentioned just gives you a buffer to avoid the question.

Are you in favour of that type of procedure on a young human. It is very simple to answer this.

You are very clearly confusing the 2 here. I am not dismissing the edge cases, but they remain exactly that.

As for the example at the end of a child harming themselves etc, I highly doubt the first course of action would be gender affirming procedures. And on this you seem (again) to confuse the use of hormones or medical procedure over calling someone by a preferred name or pronoun. Those are poles apart.

So yet another cheat, it's amazing how this never happens the other way.

Why aren't biological men like this banned from cycling events ? haven't they been banned from athletics ?

Oh look the genocide card. Amazing argument. Nobody is saying anybody shouldn't exist here - they are saying rightly that people born as men shouldn't be allowed to enter women's sports (literally set up so women could compete in sport fairly) and destroy the women due to their natural physical advantages. Which are real, not make believe

But that's not true. The race wasn't a womens sport event. So yes bringing her into this discussion is entirely about shaming and exclusion.

Exactly. The reason she is being dragged into this thread is all shaming and exclusion.

My view on that cycle race is that it's a private event not affiliated to any major sporting body, so they should be able to organise it any (legal) way they want - by hair colour, or sex or self-declared gender. So long as the participants know this before hand, why should it be a problem? I think they have put out a confused message so while I think the final result table is not classified by gender, it is telling that the website allows you to track male and female categories. That's what people are interested in clearly. If we didn't have the present mess in mainstream sport, I don't think events like this would be an issue at all.

You were saying?

Look to your own provocative and emotional arguments - “erase half the population.”

utterly laughable hypocrisy

The use of provocative and emotive arguments to try and garner sympathy and to humiliate anyone that dares raise an eyebrow. Hey wow.

We have arguably reached the stage where the only people permitted to loudly and unequivocally declare themselves women, are men.

We have regressed fifty years and more overnight and reintroduced misogyny on steroids.

“Oppression” much?

You are putting calling someone by a certain gender in the same vein as hormone blockers...really? So you are in favour of hormone blockers on toddlers? I legit can't follow any logic from you here at all.

You are avoiding the question again, and trying to use a serious edge case.

In a scenario where a young child claims to be the opposite gender, are you in favour of that child receiving hormone blockers? Not if they are in precocious puberty or found their daddies testosterone gel.

Try answer that, just try, go on.

That is a long winded answer of nothing, again. And another avoidance of the question...AGAIN!

Are you actually comparing circumcision to hormone therapy for children here? And ear piercing? Really?

The procedures you mention (some aren't procedures by the way), don't involve the "feeling" aspect of a human, they are easily diagnosed and don't have the ramifications that go on later in life.

I am not denying edge cases exist, I am pointing out that you are hiding behind them here on a frequent basis.