What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Overheal · 13-06-2023 12:08AM

Nothing to worry about here, not enabling the vigilantes and giving them a target to aim at or anything /s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itU8G7HBixc

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/we-will-vote-on-a-bill-to-make-it-easier-to-kill-people-mcgovern-blasts-republican-legislation-headed-to-the-floor/

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-deems-pride-flag-a-symbol-of-aggression-slams-evil-perverted-agenda/

Overheal · 13-06-2023 01:20AM

Fmr Trump lawyers react to indictment (look at that impressive beard):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS8i23K8TjQ

everlast75 · 13-06-2023 09:33AM

Just wondering... If the prosecution is a nonsense, then why can't trump get a lawyer to represent him?

Possible reasons;

1) he never pays them

2) he tries to get them to commit illegal acts

3) he lies to them which makes them look foolish

4) he did exactly what he is accused of doing

5) all of the above

flanna01 · 13-06-2023 09:55AM

If I was Donnie, and took a quiet moment to read and digest the charges, I would:

1) Have a nervous bowel reaction

2) Realise my goose is cooked here...

3) Commit to employing every delaying tactic in the book, and no legal representation is a good one... (to begin with)

4) Rally the rednecks into a frenzy, keep pushing them court dates out further.

5) Pray to the almighty orange sprayed fake gold ingot bar in the sky, beg to be elected President again.

6) Pardon myself from all past and future indiscretions, including showing Bob the gardener the nuclear blueprints.

7) Then all settle all scores with those that had the audacity to question the orange one.

8) Avoid the CIA bullet whilst doing the above.

Fathom · 13-06-2023 10:19AM

Rachel Maddow suggests that (Art of a Deal) Trump may attempt a plea deal to drop out of 2024 in exchange for no jail time if convicted In Miami.

Maddow noted that Vice President Spiro Agnew had a similar plea deal negotiated with prosecutors, resigning office to avoid likely prison time for alleged crimes associated with WaterGate.

Somewhat similar to Trump, Agnew proclaimed that he would never drop out (or resign), even if indicted on several criminal counts (about 40 for Agnew; now 34 and 37 for Trump). But 11 days after his no deal proclamation, Agnew took the deal and resigned.

Agnew’s fans were very upset, like you would expect from Trump’s fans if he makes a deal too. But Agnew retired to his mansion, and his fans faded away in time.

Trump sees himself as the ultimate deal maker, like his book. And he has made several deals in the past years to reduce his risks from getting worse.

Penn · 13-06-2023 10:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708429#Comment_120708429

Thing is, Spiro Agnew's case was a federal charge of tax evasion. Can the DoJ allow Trump to plea out of the charges he's facing, considering the seriousness of them? That would potentially set a legal precedent they likely don't want to set.

I would say at best they might let him plea down to House Arrest and confine him to a non-public property (ie. a private property, not Mar-A-Lago where there's potential anyone could pay to be there). But I don't know if they could just let Trump become a private citizen again as part of a plea deal.

Flaneur OBrien · 13-06-2023 10:32AM

Also, will they (could they?!) ban him from social media and interviews? Because even if he makes a plea deal, he’ll do an interview saying how his hands were tied, they were going to come after his children or some bullshit. And the anger will rise and rise.

Look at his behaviour after the E. Jean Carroll case. The man will never, ever admit that he isn’t anything but “perfect” publicly.

Fathom · 13-06-2023 10:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708470#Comment_120708470

Pleading guilty to the income tax evasion charges, and no other alleged crimes (bribery, extortion, etc) was a part of the plea deal with Agnew, including resignation from VP, and assuming his “convicted/emeritus” status mansion retirement.

Edit: Also 3 years of supervised probation, whilst living in his mansion.

Patrick2010 · 13-06-2023 10:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120707791#Comment_120707791

This is a great watch, thanks for posting. Have to say I doubt Parlatore is a former Trump lawyer, he seems to keep looking for technicalities Trump can exploit to get off. Trump actually asking if they can get rid of documents so they can say they don't have them is mad stuff! Paralatore tries to portray Trump as some kind of innocent to the legal world just asking questions of his lawyer!

Patrick2010 · 13-06-2023 11:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120707255#Comment_120707255

Another good watch. Some of the documents Trump had were so sensitive they weren't mentioned in the indictment. Files containing details of foreign agents working on behalf of the US now putting their lives in danger. Information supplied to the US by friendly governments on the assumption they would be kept strictly confidential. Meanwhile all this info is kept in Mar A lago with no security, in ballrooms, bedrooms and bathrooms. We know at least 2 foreign spies had access to Mar A lago , not mention Trump mentioning in a recent interview that Nixon got 18 million for his documents. Maybe 18 million in todays money corresponds to the 2 billion Jared got from the Saudis?.

If Trump was working as a Soviet agent hes done a great job, sowing division in America and distrust in elections. Cosying up to Putin , taking secret documents which compromises Americas security as they can't know who has access now.

looksee · 13-06-2023 11:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708622#Comment_120708622

Just out of interest, where has the sensitivity of these documents been reported?

Patrick2010 · 13-06-2023 11:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708684#Comment_120708684

Did you watch the video?

Penn · 13-06-2023 11:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708565#Comment_120708565

I agree, but my point is that the seriousness of the charges that Trump is facing, particularly when it comes to the Espionage Act, I'm not sure if the DoJ would or could just allow him to plea to lesser charges and drop the charges relating to the Espionage Act. That would set a precedent they may not want to set.

I think they may allow him to plea in a deal relating to what punishment he faces, but I don't know if they could actually drop those particular charges.

everlast75 · 13-06-2023 11:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708429#Comment_120708429

Did she suggest that the DoJ should accept?

Because if so, I think she is off her ****ing rocker.

He gave two big* fingers to the rule of law in the U.S. and the idea that he should be so kind as to step down for a race he won't win to avoid culpability, is nonsense.

He should be made an example of for many reasons, one of which being heaven knows the next egomaniac narcissist that gets his clammy paws on the White House might not be a painfully thick as 45, and the precedent needs to be there.

*May not be big

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-06-2023 12:18PM

I can't see Trump accepting a plea deal - this would mean admitting quilt.

Penn · 13-06-2023 12:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709024#Comment_120709024

He'll do whatever benefits him the most at the end. If that means admitting guilt as part of a plea deal, then publicly stating that he only did it because he was forced to, the corrupt (everyone) all ganged up on him, he plead guilty because it was in the best interests of America (and no, he won't explain how), everyone in power worked against him and the GOP didn't do enough to defend him so it's all everyone else's fault, he plead guilty because it means the corrupt Dems/DoJ/FBI won't now go after Trump's supporters so really he did it to save them (so they should donate money to him because of that)... etc

He'll take a plea deal if he knows there's nothing else he can do, and he'll just try gaslight everyone after it to try save face.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-06-2023 12:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709049#Comment_120709049

Then what;s in it for the prosecution? If convicted he can't run for president anyway and as someone mentioned above - they'll want to make an example of him if he's guilty.

duploelabs · 13-06-2023 12:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709024#Comment_120709024

Would it be a Blanket acceptance of all charges if he did accept quilt?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-06-2023 12:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709091#Comment_120709091

Well they'd have to drop something, I suppose - but they'd also have to get something in return.

everlast75 · 13-06-2023 12:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709091#Comment_120709091

When it comes to his supporters, duvet know the difference?

Penn · 13-06-2023 12:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709069#Comment_120709069

Avoid a trial, which given the lengths his supporters have already gone to with regards death threats and violence could be the best option. Avoid risking a biased jury & judge which regardless of the evidence may not go their way. Avoid the public spectacle and show that they're interested only in enforcing the laws and not putting on a show or making Trump more of a martyr than he'll try to be.

Because of the Espionage Act I don't think they can or will let him plea to the minor offences and have the bigger ones dropped. That sets up a nightmare precedent for them. But allowing a plea deal simply for punishment which wouldn't involve incarceration in an actual jail but instead a private/home residence with significant limitations in terms of visitors, communications, security, no golf.... they could possibly go that route. Personally I hope they don't as even that would be letting him off easy if he's guilty of what he's being charged with, but it may be something they consider.

looksee · 13-06-2023 12:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708714#Comment_120708714

Apologies, I did but was distracted and only registered bits of it (now I have looked at it again), evidently missed the vital bits!

ohnonotgmail · 13-06-2023 01:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709069#Comment_120709069

A conviction has no bearing on his ability to run for president. He could be locked up and still run for president.

ohnonotgmail · 13-06-2023 01:07PM

Bear in mind that 90% of federal prosecutions end up in a plea deal. Only 2% go to trial. I would not be surprised at all if Trump pled down.

duploelabs · 13-06-2023 01:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709235#Comment_120709235

Again, trump pleading is him admitting guilt, can't see it happening as it's never happened before

ohnonotgmail · 13-06-2023 01:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709278#Comment_120709278

he has made plea agreements before. remember trump university?

Cody montana · 13-06-2023 01:29PM

Any time on when he’s getting indicted?

looksee · 13-06-2023 01:35PM

3pm EST

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-06-2023 02:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709219#Comment_120709219

Huh - did not know that. Could have sworn the Democrats reason for pushing the Insurrection charges was to block him from doing so.

Be interesting how he did so from jail (unless the released him) but I'd imagine a conviction would kill off any chance of pulling back the swing voters he lost in 2020.

duploelabs · 13-06-2023 02:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120709528#Comment_120709528

He'd just pardon himself the minute he's in office

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