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2022-23 UEFA Champions League

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,695 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Pep is some legendary manager with all his wins

    Well Done MC

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,543 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    As well as the money the other serious concern is the amount of political power the Middle East has in the UK. Boris Johnson while PM was interfering with the Newcastle takeover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,543 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya so "shut up everyone" and don't be talking about uncomfortable subjects that some people want swept under carpets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,621 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    No but don't be hypocrites. Don't complain about murdering countries and at the same time support murdering criminals with ur Saturday night habits. My original point is UEFA signed up to CAS voluntarily not with a gun to their head and therefore agreed to abide by their rulings. The 115 charges are from the PL so those comments surely belong in the PL forum and are irrelevant to the competition that was being played tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,725 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Questionable funding also exists in the GAA oddly enough.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,543 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Whataboutery is the official term for this BullSht.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,543 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's like Pep a few weeks ago btching about the process taking so long and willfully forgetting that it's his boss who is making it take so long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,953 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Liverpool 2019.jpg

    It's not about the money, money, money

    We don't need your money, money, money

    We just wanna make the world dance

    Forget about the price tag



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Nice to see the owner at his second ever game, in 15 years. Fair play to him, the football fanatic. Dream fine true. Buy a club and win it all. He got to see it all first hand.... oh wait



  • Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What an absolute load of nonsense, two things though.

    It's extremely naive to think, that people will act with the exact amount of emotion towards every single situation, what you call hypocrisy is just human nature.

    Two you really think the people in here posting in a football forum late on a Saturday night are coke fiends you are very wide of the mark.

    Also I'd prefer to occasionally be called a hypocrite due to variences in my scorn for bad things. Then never have any morale objections to anything at all, just so I can get my jollies off calling people hypocrites.

    We live in strange times when people think it's worse to be a hypocrite then to call out things or people you think are bad or evil



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,992 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    oh THAT'S what he meant! I was trying to think what murderous Saturday night habits I had!



  • Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe he meant your moves.

    Some murder on the dance floor maybe. :P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,647 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    All a bit meh in terms of what this is; wrapped in a bizarre facade from BT and sports media who continue to omit any reference to the cheating. Leaves it all very empty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,030 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Imagine being a City fan, how can you not hang your head in **** shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,751 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    In the GAA? Like what for example? The Weekend lotto?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Brendan Flowers


    Why? City fans have done nothing wrong. As a MUFC who is hoping Ratcliffe becomes the new owner, I'll still support the club even if its Sheikh Jassim thats becomes owner. I cant control who the owner is.

    Let the City fans enjoy this success. It's the EPL that needs to hang its head in shame for not doing something about the financial doping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,195 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    It's mad seeing that picture. The fella on the right, Khaldoon Al Mubarak, comes most weekends to the football league I run to see his children play and he's just a normal joe soap around the place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,767 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    I know of at least two men who were given sites to play football for a club at a mediocre level in a Midlands county. Sites worth were probably €50k at the time. None of that every declared.


    How many trainers up and down the country are receiving cash in hand on a weekly basis for training clubs. That cash never gets declared to revenue.


    Millions floating around in the GAA yearly that is never officially there, and that's before we even look at how the budget for Dublin GAA is more than the rest of Leinster combined.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,699 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Because winning is all that matters.

    Sport is a microcosm of society. All that matters is the side you're on. The issue itself doesn't matter. How much you cheat doesn't matter. As long as your side wins, then fúck it.

    Do they not ask themselves why there wasn't the same reaction from rivals when United won it in 99, or when they'd a dynasty? Yes, I fúcking hated them, but never once did I think anything was unfair, so you'd just try to ignore it for a few weeks and move on. And remember, you'd United fans everywhere! So you'd have every reason to cry bullshít if there was any inkling of bullshít going on.

    It's not bitterness, even if they tell themselves that. It's people unwilling to accept blatant cheating in a sport they love.



  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They don't care. It's seige mentality. Newcastle fans are the same. Utd fans will be similar when the lovely Qataris come in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    Of course Utd did not break FFP rules in ‘99 as they didn’t exist until a decade later. They were of course playing in a completely different financial sphere to most other teams, indeed it was only when this hegemony was threatened by sugar daddy owners that such clubs got ‘interested’ in fair play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,699 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Did they cheat?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,647 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    They absolutely did not cheat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭McFly85


    There are rules in both competitions that City have been found to have broken. One they got a reduced punishment due to a technicality(they were still fined) and the other is ongoing - and it’s ongoing because even though they publicly claim to have incontrovertible evidence and are happy to assist the PL, their lawyers are ensuring every request is dragged through the courts for as long as possible.

    The argument about Uniteds spend is moot. They worked within the confines of each tournament.

    City are cheating by wilfully ignoring the rules they signed up to in each competition. Everyone knows this, and none of their achievements will be remembered in the same regard as others because of this. I think West Ham’s European win this season was more impressive when you consider the resources they have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,699 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,867 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Complete and utter nonsense as others have already rationalised in detail.

    City spent their first few seasons under Abu Dhabi signing every player United had been linked with, Aguero, Silva even Robinho was under the impression he was going to United when he signed for City.

    That and they took nearly half of Arsenal's first team over the course of a couple of seasons.

    City were so determined to do things differently to the established clubs that they aped everything they did and cooked the books the whole way along. Such an underdog story.

    Meanwhile United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs you name a club who've been around the top of the table in recent years and they've all been bringing young players into their first teams from their academy, City have token academy boy Phil Foden on the bench as some sort of grudging nod to youth development as if they aren't playing a completely different game to everyone else.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Pep and his 'written in the stars bs' is not something I was wanting to wake up to this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I dunno where I read it, but by being able to have 5 subs, a team like city are able to changeover nearly half their team with superstars during a match.

    Never thought about it before as most teams have a noticeable drop off in quality from the first team to the bench. Not so in their case.

    I know it didn’t happen last night, but had extra time would have seen the likes of Mahrez, Alvarez and Laporte come on. A World Cup winner, a Spanish international and captain of the Algerian team.

    Thats not right or normal to have a bench that strong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,647 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    It's just nonsense. For me, it deepens a growing apathy towards the game and disdain for the media that attempts to rehash tiresome narratives around it repeatedly. The coverage of this treble SHOULD be different. It should be heavily caveated with the various strands of allegations and investigations. It feels like a low moment for the sport, in essence.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    Yep, this is why I have no sympathy for people whinging about City.

    EPL fans have largely been happy to turn a blind eye to all the dirty money pouring into the game... desperately hoping their club will be the next ones to get a rich sugar daddy. Now, all of a sudden, it's become too much for them to stomach... yeah sure, pull the other one! lol

    Every club is trying to get a financial edge over each other. No integrity and no real values, just do whatever to get ahead. It's a financial arms race and has been for 20+ years.

    Even stuff that most fans are completely ignorant about. Like for example, have you ever questioned why/how a club like Spurs, who haven't won anything of substance in decades can build a billion pound stadium? Or why they would even need/want to do this? It's simple, the likes of Levy has access to vast amounts of money from city of London financiers who he can call on to essentially write a blank cheque. This is not money they've made through success on the pitch, it's just a sneaky way of cheating by calling in favours from your powerful friends. And they will use that stadium as a world class events venue, likely making more money from concerts and NFL games than from the football revenue... which they will plough back into the club and call it legitimate revenue streams.

    I mean ffs, why not just build a Las Vegas style casino stripe in north London and call it a day? lol

    I'm not just singling out Spurs btw, they're all at it... trying to find new revenue streams anywhere they can. They don't give monkey's whether it's even remotely relevant to the football club.



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