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Phillip Schofield steps down from ITV after affair with "much younger male"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,835 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    He is probably under a legal NDA.

    You left out a lot in your misleading summation... such as how and when Schofield first met the younger man and how he came to be working at ITV, and no longer working there.

    It wasnt some random younger man was it?

    But you knew this already.

    There is also the aspect of how much he knew about his brother abusing children.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,987 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    So what crimes have been committed here? Older man fancies younger man and they have a consensual sexual relationship. What are we missing?

    What is so bad that sees Schofield deserve this incessant coverage and ridiculing?

    what has the when and how he met him got to do with the here and now? Did he or did he or commit a crime against another person?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭juno10353


    What happened to the runner on Loose Women who was ousted and replaced with Philips "mate".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,835 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Do you have to commit a crime before you can be criticised? That seems to be your implication.

    An absurd moral cop out.

    It is not for me to judge if his acts were criminal. I would point out your post demonstrates ignorance of the crime of grooming which is entirely related to how and when contact is first made if one party is underage.

    But imo they were wrong morally and professionally. ITVs reaction testifies to the latter.

    He abused his position and took advantage of it to pursue this relationship. And took advantage of someone trying to make a career in the industry. The degree of consent in such relationships is open to question when such strings are attached.

    Many cases of sexual harassment are established as per workplace tribunals rather than by criminal law. Does that make them a crime?

    He lied to his employers. He contributed to a toxic workplace environment.

    His conduct with his child abusing brother is highly dubious also.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,987 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Ok, so we’ve established he has commited no crime. Like I said, the rest is nothing more than an employment matter/issue.

    glad you seem to get some enjoyment out of wall to wall badgering and criticism of a man who’s “crime” was to tell a few lies. The rest is all hearsay and subjective.

    and grooming? You have proof of this, yes? Maybe its just your really hoping it true.. has the man come out to say that he was groomed? Has Philip been charged with grooming an underage child?

    you’re no different than the rest of the people fuelling this fake outrage. Delighting in a person of power having such a public humiliation and fall; all based off basically him fancying someone,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭200mg


    I think there will probably be an ongoing investigation into Grooming allegations is someone has contacted the UK police about this issue. At a minimum there will be an inquiry done by ITV or even the UK Gov via whatever department looks after broadcasters ofcom maybe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    Mcgreevy should be around 26/27 years now... he's well adult now ...why in god's name isn't Schofield asking him to collaborate the story if truthful.. instead of saying he wants mcgreevy to walk away as Schofield thinks he has suffered enough already and then Schofield having suicidal thoughts himself instead...makes no sense as we already know his name and he being the consensual lover at that time according to phil...maybe Schofield was right to give mcgreevy the road from this morning.. he's no friend to Schofield it seems



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Phil gave the interview to The Sun and BBC, he is keeping himself in the media too, I think trying to gain sympathy by using Caroline Flack, also there is many ITV colleagues and This Morning guests speaking out on Phil's rudeness, it is not just the affair keeping media interest, he was a mainstay king of daytime TV with a wholesome family persona, then the brave coming out gay man persona which all a ruse staged lies, if this was someone else you can bet Phil, This Morning and Loose Women would be giving their opinions full blast, today we had Alison crying for him, Holly's return on Monday should be interesting if she has a statement prepared



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Ok, so we’ve established he has commited no crime. Like I said, the rest is nothing more than an employment matter/issue.

    Well, we've only one side of the story to go on so far............... There'll be an investigation regarding grooming etc. so time will tell if PS did anything illegal or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭valoren


    With all his statements and interviews I think Phillip needs to stop badgering us all. 😄



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  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,835 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No we havent established no crime was committed.

    I pointed out the concept of grooming to show that your defintition of legal conduct was false.

    It is for the authorities to decide such things, who can dig deeper than we can.

    What we have established given you couldnt refute it is that what is morally wrong and criminally wrong are separete things.

    Your posts are just exercises in deflection in deflection and moral bankruptcy.

    Eg nonsense about 'enjoyment" when you are unable to point to where in my post this is expressed? Well? Please point to the line that demonstrates this?

    Its a given you wont be able to so will pivot to another deflection.

    Your defence of Schofield and earlier defence of exactly what perversions his brother was guilty of are really desperate stuff.

    A large part of the reason why people abusing positions of power for sexual advantage in the entertainment industry are stoped is public backlash.

    He is an abuser in that regard.

    So no it is not just an employment matter. It is about stopping abusers ruining lives.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭batman75


    Watched the 10 minute clip from the BBC. The problem Schofield has is that before I sat down to watch it I knew I was watching an interview with someone who has admitted lying through his teeth about this very matter. Therefore your left on very shaky grounds as to whether he is lying during this interview. It was very much a poor me I'm so hard done by interview. No apology to his wife and family.

    He went on TV with Holly and presented this clean cut married image of the straight guy. By all accounts his relationship with this young lad was common knowledge in media circles. His whole coming out on TV was a sham. He was in a position of power when he entered into this relationship with a lad 34 years younger than him. He has known the lad since he was 15. I think Schofield is either in denial or doesn't understand what grooming actually means. It was an abuse of power and most places frown upon relationships between employees.

    He acknowledges his career is caput by what the headlines say as I only saw a 10 minute youtube clip not the full thing. The homophobia angle he is spouting is tosh. His use of Caroline Flack in this interview is strange and disturbing. He basically says the media coverage has brought him to the verge of suicide. Schofield has brought this media scrum on himself by his actions. He found fame and fortune in public broadcasting. Well Phillip this is the other side of the coin which made you millions across 41 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,987 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Ok, so he’s morally reprehensible. At least we know your position.

    and I’m not defending him, as I think he did fook all to warrant this obscene scrutiny.

    and I could never stand him and that Willoughby one..pair a pretentious immature twats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭batman75



    To be fair to Schofield his name and reputation is destroyed. He is being widely spoken of as a nonce which outwit murderer is as low as it gets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭200mg


    True I'm on the fence about the grooming end atm we have not heard from the other side. But all the other flack he is getting is warranted imop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,826 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    PS had a a problem in that he had no social capital, because of his general antics in the industry. When the sh1t hit the fan, he had no friends.



  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Hmm. I'm not sure. If I found out my brother was part of such a grotesque act I'd call for hanging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,987 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    And no doubt, like plenty others you hope he did groom that person..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,826 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    My understanding is that Timothy confessed to Paul in a phone call, what he had done.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭200mg


    Nope this has zero impact on my life. It's just interesting from the clean cut image point of view that's all. I mean no one would bat an eye if some Hollywood celeb did the same thing as it's pretty much expected and the bar is very low. UK daytime TV though that's another kettle of fish.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Whatever about what Phil did or didn't do, he is not responsible for his brothers actions.

    I'm genuinely surprised at the levels of hate against him for having an affair and lieing about it, I'd say that happens everyday!

    Abuse of power? If he did, and it has yet to be shown, then he has already lost his career. I can only imagine that his mental health would of course suffer.

    I wouldn't be putting the boot in more, that's just me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,369 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Was he living with his wife until recently?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,826 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I have no interest in the This Morning controversy but an concerned if he knew of his brother's activity and did not act.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭200mg


    Ah common do you not think using another person committing suicide is not a bit close to the knuckle. I would be more of the opinion a weight being lifted when this came out. Like a criminal that finally gets caught upto and stops having to look over the shoulder for years upon years.



  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭200mg


    No It's a turn of phrase from some film I watched. Police officer could tell who was guilty straight away due to them sleeping in the cell once caught. Cant rem the film. Basically innocent men don't sleep a wink.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Well I haven't watched the interview but I assumed he was comparing the public pile on with the same way the public treated Caroline Flack? And I could understand his mental health suffering over it.

    And believe me, criminals don't think like that! 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    The family of Caroline flack must be rightly upset being mentioned in that interview when she had nothing to do with his situation..badly advised to start off with that comment



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  • Site Banned Posts: 7,421 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Got ya. Get rid of judges and trial by peers. Makes perfect sense.



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