Madeleine McCann

Yes large green wheelie bins were in use that year .,

Well I wouldn`t be ruling them out, that`s for sure. Have you read the statement of Katherine Gaspar for example? It`s in the public domain and you will probably find it with a Google search. Are you aware that the menfolk of the Tapas 7 liked to bath each others kids? David Payne turned up late for dinner that night. When Gerry made his check on Madeleine it was remarked upon by the diners that he was gone for longer than he should have been. The bins were not properly searched and were allowed to be emptied and removed to landfill in the early hours of the following morning. Is it not all very convenient and imo very weird that the doors were not locked?

I wouldnt no. I wouldn't even leave them in the car outside my frony door if i had to run back in.

But obviously other people did seeing as there is an actual service provided by many hotels that facilities what the mcCanns and their friends done

Was it ever investigated how much alcohol was involved that night, with the Tapas 7? British tourists do remarkable things when alcohol is involved.

That's always been a persistently annoying aspect of the case where it's like the tabloids take ownership of the story by giving the child a little nickname that the parents didn't use. Same thing happened with James Bulger. It was not a nickname the parents appreciated.

Regarding the blaming of the parents, people have been making the same points on this for the last 16 years as if this is a novel opinion. And the interesting thing is that if you let these people talk in this way, it too often eventually gives way to opinions like above which is not just that the parents played a role by leaving the apartment door unlocked and so on but that they may have been actively involved. That's what seems to be sitting below the surface of a lot of this. However, like many a conspiracy theory, those promoting it never let an inconvenient thing like a complete lack of credible evidence get in the way of their scurrilous accusations, do they?

An accusation like that, if it cannot be proven, should be backed down from.

Madeleine is her name

Even if you are right, what’s the point? What do you suggest? Imprison them? Not suffered enough for your liking?

Their daughter is gone and presumed dead because someone came and took her.

If their daughter is dead because of their selfishness, then that's wording which implies they're directly responsible. However, there is a much larger factor at play, i.e. the abductor.

Yes the person who took her is obviously the main reason. I doubt anyone disputes that.

However, the parents gifted the opportunity by leaving her unattended in an unlocked apartment while they went out.

She doesn’t get abducted if they are at home with her. She might not get abducted if the apartment is locked.

Are you saying the parents are without any responsibility in how things turned out?

It's that simple? Only one victim.

Her parents are victims. I can guarantee you they have suffered, they lost a child.

Her siblings are victims.

Her grandparents are victims

Her uncles and aunts are victims

Her creche buddies are victims. But your misguided posts concentrate on the parents who's negligence is criminally minuscule in comparison to the perverted murderer. Your blasé posts are classic virtuous, keyboard warrior & lazy victim blaming similar to that of the Portuguese police that shifted the blame from the actual criminal to protect their skin in the holiday game.

I'm in the "the murderer is to blame" camp.

It's not enjoyable, it's awful, I've kids the same age as Madeleine McCann when she was murdered, I've kids that are nearly the same age as she would be now if she had lived.

You're in the bizarre internet "the parents are to blame" camp and that's your prerogative. Not much point in arguing with you, I predict you're going to dig your heels in now and ignore the fact that someone took that girl and murdered her.

I've remonstrated with your thank-garnering smug insensitive posts. Not you.

I’m glad you don’t think they are without any responsibility for how things turned out.

The 2020 comments by the German public prosecutor Wolters….When asked whether there was any material evidence that Madeleine , is dead, Wolters replied: “Yes.”

not… “ it’s our belief she is dead “ not “ the likelihood from our investigation is that she is probably dead “

Not only that, there is “ material evidence “ Madeleine is dead… I wonder were there photos that showed that…?

the article says that Wolters refuses to elaborate…. I wonder why ? If they did find photos of her dead body… is the responsible thing not to make the family aware… if the family are aware ?

why is the ‘ find Madeleine’ charity and website still operating, still requesting donations, still with the following explicit goals…from said site… http://www.findmadeleine.com/support/index.html

• To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
• To procure that Madeleine's abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
• To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.
• If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

Donations can be made to the fund through the following channel…

It’s beyond tragic, it’s beyond very very strange also… McCanns seeking £££££££ help…. Prosecutor “ material evidence she’s dead “… but we won’t tell you what evidence…. Wolters is a guy, late 40’s to early 50’s….

whole case is as bizarre as it is tragic.