The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

Westmeath should have got at least a draw out of that game, will be kicking themselves that they didn't. The OP of this thread reckoned Armagh would reach the last 4, I've seen nothing from them in the league and championship this year to suggest they'll do that this summer. They play a rested Tyrone away next weekend and lose that and it will likely finish 3rd at best in the group and then could end up playing Kerry away in the play off. They'll do well to reach another Quarter final.

I think Ardee holds approx 2,500.

A draw 14 points each. Donegal are top of the group. Derry drew with Donegal in the Ulster Final 2022, won it in extra time. Drew with Armagh this year and won it on penalties. And another draw today.

McGeeney is Armagh's problem - until they get rid of him Armagh football won't progress. The problem for them is how do you sack a manager who was an icon as a player?

Exactly. I can’t think of any period of teams he has managed where they punched above their weight in big games, or even pushed teams they weren’t supposed to beat.

McGeeney is just living on his playing reputation, plus some in the media implying he is some sort of guru.

I said it to a Kildare supporter before- when McGeeney was with the lillywhites. Asking McGeeney what has he done? Surprisingly he agreed and said he just does basic instruction and gets fellas fit. That’s all.

A tribute to Tubridy perhaps🤔

It's a stretch to say they were unlucky in the Galway game last year. Galway were coasting 6 points up in injury time before having an absolute brain malfunction, especially from the goalkeeper, handing Armagh an undeserved lifeline.

Armagh were exceptionally lucky yesterday, with both the goal and some dodgy referee decisions. Feel bad for Westmeath who were probably 2-3 points the better team. Ronan O'Toole must be a nightmare to play against, it's impossible to get close to him to disposses

Ah that explains it so - GAA politics at its best.

McGeeney improves every team he manages, but just not enough to bring them all the way. The question then becomes whether anybody could have taken those teams to success or was just being competitive actually their natural upper limit.

Kildare were competing under McGeeney and disappeared when he left. Armagh were nowhere before McGeeney and are now close to the top.

Perhaps Armagh would do better with another manager, but I can see why they would look at Kildare and think long and hard before rolling that dice and changing things.

Commentators still don't know the black card rules in the Dublin v Roscommon game

Roscommon up by 4 at HT and choking Dublin. Dublin agains the wind in second half

Draw game but Roscommon really should’ve won that

I thought it was funny when some Dublin fans complaining about Roscommon keeping the ball for several minutes towards the end of the first half. Just like Dublin did under Gavin towards the end of the game. Roscommon could easily have won today but lost it also.