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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭PressRun


    It's certainly heartening to be in a position where we won and still have improvements to make. I definitely think the finishing in front of goal needs a lot of work. Some of the finishing was completely headless. We did well to work the chances, but they need to be buried. I think we had about 5 chances and only scored one of them. On another day, you'd only get one clear cut chance and you have to be putting that away because it could really be the difference between winning and losing. Even the last day, we should have had 2 goals in the first half but missed them. Then Clifford comes out in the second half and is trying really hard to work a goal - if one of those chances had gone in, the game might have had a different complexion and we'd be really regretting those missed shots in the first half, when we should have been out the gap. Winning in the end and finally getting the goal to seal it puts a gloss on it, but it's something that will stay in the back of my head, I reckon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭crusd


    No problem, just declare that Mayo haven’t faced issues when playing against teams who setup ultra defensively and have still to show that they have worked out a way around it and sure it means it’s not real eh?

    Also declare that Mayo comprehensively beat Galway when in fact it was a 3 point win where our keeper made four top class saves and kicked 3 long range frees. Reality is our two most disjointed league performances in the league were against Galway. We were very lucky to get the draw the first day and a combination of our keeper and Galway’s poor performance got us out the second day. The process in the team has been phenomenal this year and I am confident they will answer the questions around how they can deal with a messed defence. They haven’t done that yet though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,626 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Think there's a middle ground between both of your views. I would agree that we were less than convincing in both games versus Galway and we can certainly struggle against a blanket defence... But that's what blanket defences are designed to do, to make it hard.

    There were other games in the league where came up against packed defences and won.

    We obviously prefer open games and tend to struggle a bit more when it's not... But given our forward options and progress / continued expected progress, I wouldn't be making a massive deal about us not be able to break down a blanket defence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Squatman


    theyve beaten everyone they played this year, with the exception of roscommon 1 week after winning the league final. take the negatives out of that any which way you can. The only fly in the ointment for me is dublin. they don't have a blanket, and are the only team likely to beat mayo this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭PressRun


    The whole point of the blanket is to frustrate and make it as difficult as possible to score. Teams wouldn't be doing it if it didn't work. Most teams struggle to break it down, that's nothing new. A lot of the discussion around the blanket lately makes it sound like nobody has ever struggled with it before.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,626 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Oisin Mullin set to make his AFL debut this weekend.

    From a Mayo point of view, huge credit to the lads who have stepped up this year. Fears of losing both Keegan and Mullin seem like a long time ago now, even though there's a fair way to go in the Championship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭spakman




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    I'm sure Mayo didn't throw the Roscommon game, but it seems that the 6 week break really has been a blessing for Mayo. They have had the break, got a chance to get some of the key players towards full fitness (O'Hora, Conroy, Durkan - and Jason Doherty looks like he can still mix it with the best). They have now beaten the supposedly best team in the Group, so have a decent chance of topping the group. Can't take anything for granted of course, but a team like Cork is exactly what Mayo want - not ultra defensive and appears to be mentally fragile and lack of confidence.

    Topping the group is a huge bonus going into the quarter final, and they will get that little extra break again. If they get down to the last 8, it's the luck of the draw then - to play who ever comes through from the prelim quarter final play-offs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,626 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Getting very far ahead but is it definitely an open draw for the quarter finals?

    I had heard that teams from the same group would be avoided if possible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Squatman


    do you think if we meet Monaghan, that they'd beat us? they were lucky to scrape a draw if I recall correctly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,430 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Monaghan beat us well in Castlebar, was tight enough but they got a late peno to win by 5 or 6



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭muddle84




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    Definitely "avoidance where possible" for the quarters.

    Oddly, it's a slightly different avoidance than the semi-finals has. Semi's avoid any previous Championship meeting where the quarters only hope to avoid Provincial Final and Round One (the group phase) meetings.


    https://www.gaa.ie/news/gaa-master-fixtures-for-2023-published/ < Page 22 of the first document there.


    "Quarter-Finals

    01-02.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)

    (Four Games)

    The four first-place teams from Round 1 shall be drawn to play against the four Preliminary Quarter-Finals winners, subject in the first instance to the avoidance of repeat Provincial Final pairings and where possible repeat pairings from Round 1.


    Semi-Finals

    15-16.07.2023 (Sat/Sun)

    (Two Games)

    The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible."


    We'd still be potentially looking at ~4-6% chance of drawing Kerry in a QFs (assuming both sides win all other games up until then, though those odds could drop depending on what other previous meetings might also be subject to avoidance) but much lower than the ~32% or more we'd have for any other side in the draw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    Solid win on the scoreboard for them but didn't show a lot of what happened on the pitch.

    48% conversion on the day from locations with an expected 68% and hit 14 points on the back of an expected 20 (against their 20 from an expected 17).

    It wasn't the blanket that beat us. Just a few too many rusty lads having a bad game (including the likes of Robbie and Swanee [who drove on to have a fantastic game against Kerry] who are absolute legends not just younger or less experienced lads) when motivation was lacking and a huge overhaul of the team that had been playing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Wasn’t there something like 10 changes for the Monaghan game from the team that played Donegal the previous game, as well as it being of no consequence to us as we had already qualified for the League Final?.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TsuDhoNimh


    Aye, with something like 7 of the 10 making their first start of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    yeah I'm pretty sure 7 of the ones left out from the starting 15 after Donegal for Monaghan started the last day against Kerry - Reape, Coyne, mcBrien, Loftus, Diarmuid O'Connor, Carney and Carr.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,626 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Cracking evening for the minor final!

    From TG4

    "7:20 Deferred coverage of Galway v Mayo in the Connacht Final in the Electric Ireland Minor Football Championship. Presented by Micheál Ó Domhnaill. (LIVE on the TG4 app & www.tg4.ie @ 18:50)"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Hasn't caught fire yet, more wides than scores. 20 minutes played Galway 0-3 Mayo 0-4. Mayo's first score after 13 mins .

    Last 10 minutes of the half has improved greatly in quality. Galway 0-8 Mayo 0-7 at half time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Good win for the minors



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    Having watched the full game again., ive realized just how important Conor Loftus is to this current Mayo set-up.

    Too be honest i wanted him off at HT.

    He really needs to move the ball alot quicker as his kicking ability is top notch, but he was caught napping holding on to possession for far too long, and got turned over on more than 1 occasion resulting in needless scores for Kerry.

    If he brushes up on certain elements in his game, we have a great play-maker on our hands, as he's got a great footballing brain, and knows when to carry the ball forward or when to stay put.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,626 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Funny old game, it wasn't looking great for the first 10 mins or so. Subs had a huge impact in the second half. Great to get the win.

    Tuam really is fit to be knocked at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    Forgot to say congrats to the Minors this evening.

    We've got some great footballers coming through the ranks.

    Some great foot passing by the team tonight, and its great seeing a citog in the team striking over frees and hitting points with ease on the right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭spakman


    they got planning to knock the hay shed and build a new cantilevered stand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,693 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    After watching the minor game there....things looked a bit dodgy for a few minutes in the first half but fairly impressive overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,693 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    Anyone watching the Cork vs Louth game?

    High scoring and looks like Cork going to scrape a win



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Cork win is a good result for us I think.

    Louth a bit demoralised coming to MacHale Park with only a week's rest and kerry awaiting them in the last game.If we win v Louth the last game is likely a dead rubber v Cork (unless Cork beat Kerry)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭TsuDhoNimh



    No, sadly. No scenario of results in the next round leave the last game meaningless for us now. Only a Louth win or a draw (along with a Cork loss to Kerry) could have allowed that.

    Assuming a win over Louth we'll be on 4 points at best. With Cork on 2 points now no matter what happens them against Kerry they'd have the ability to match us on 4 points and potentially (assuming no other side also finished on 4pts) overtake us on the head to head. Potentially could also end up in a multiway tie for 4 points too where score difference takes over from the various head to heads.

    That said.... plenty of benefits keeping up momentum and having lads fighting for places we wouldn't want to go into that game looking for anything beyond a win really. Doesn't really move the goal posts from where we'd have been aiming.



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