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2022 Executive Officer Civil Service

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  • Posts: 101 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    any allowance held for more than 12 months is reckonable to determine starting pay on promotion

    see circular 08/2019 revised arrangements for starting pay on promotion



  • Posts: 101 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    circular 08/2019 revised arrangements for starting pay on promotion states anyone receiving an allowances which the shift premium is will start on that point plus one on promotion.

    working overtime is not an allowance and cannot be compared in this instance



  • Posts: 101 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    no one should be without basic pay for 6 months. There is a delay with pay going from CO to EO but everyone still received their basic pay .Raise a compliant through NSSO and your pay will be sorted fairly quickly. They hate having complaints as it affect their stats. ,, ☺️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Has anyone been allocated to social welfare? I’ve been allocated to them as EO and I’m wondering if flexi time and remote work is available? I still don’t know the location. I was transferred there after being provisionally allocated to another department.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭summersun23


    Don't know but you could give the local hr contact a ring and get an indication. Hopefully you get a nice convenient location.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Watermelonsugar


    @innocent_lover

    Circular 08/19 as you are over 12 months it says

    An officer who holds an allowance in the nature of pay at the time of promotion to a higher grade, including an allowance deriving from service as a Private Secretary, will enter the scale for the higher post at the more favourable of the following: 

    (i) Normal starting pay rules based on the officer's existing pay, exclusive of the  allowance; or 

    (ii) Where the allowance has been held for at least one year, the officer's existing  pay plus the allowance


    //


    It's taken into account unless you are being promoted to EO with allowance from what I can tel. Query it with your LHR or NSSO to confirm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Poolbabe


    From working in social welfare. You could be waiting up to 9 months before you can get blended working. Flexi is available but only if you are in the office if your at home you don't get flexi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Thank you. In that case I won’t be able to take the job. I need blended for personal reasons. I was originally allocated to another department that had remote working but they changed me. I’m not keen on the working conditions in social welfare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    Unlike most allowances, Shift premiums are not taken into account for reckonable pay in a lot of civil service departments. The local HR unit will make the call on it. NSSO will simply follow their instruction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 imagusaran


    @Missy95 I wouldn't dismiss it just based on what people have said here. I know Social Protection is busy so it is likely you would be in the office a lot, but there are many different Social Protection offices around the country and they might all have individual policies. You'd be best trying to contact HR at their head office to get a better indication of what your situation might be and it would also give you the opportunity to say you would need blended working and you might have a clearer picture of things once you speak to them. While this forum is great and the people here might be right, a job is too valuable to give up if you're only going by what people have said here and not talking to HR in Social Protection themselves!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭OKDublin


    I agree. It's the biggest department. There will be so many teams/offices etc. I don't know how flexible they are in accommodating new starters but ask before you turn it down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Can I ask you what was your experience of working in social welfare? Would you recommend it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Vologda69


    I joined DSP two years ago from public service. Had worked in revenue as tco in my student days. Got EO within 9 months after encouragement from excellent HEO. Had gone on the mobility list early on, but dont think ill need it now. I wfh 4 days and have little contact with customers. The dept has the biggest number of staff, so promotion is easier. Mine was via two interviews, no tests. Staff are given plenty of opportunity to train and upskill. Should be an internal HEO comp due this year. So no complaints from me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Winter132


    Hi, has anyone from open stream from batch 9 been placed into clearance yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    That’s great to hear. Thanks. I was told DSP only allows one day WFH. I’d love WFH and preferably no contact with public!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Good idea. Thanks. I’ll contact their HR and see can they accommodate blended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Thanks. Hopefully they might be flexible with people on probation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Anyone working in Social Welfare head office in Store Street?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 TY76


    Hi,

    I currently work as an EO in the Public sector, and I recently received a start date for the civil service.

    Does my current public sector payscale transfer across to my new role with the Civil service?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Poolbabe


    Hi yeah, it's their head office. Do you know what section you will be in? Hr Is there along with illness benefit and some policy sections...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Poolbabe


    Hi yeah, it's their head office. Do you know what section you will be in? Hr Is there along with illness benefit and some policy sections...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Yes. Illness benefit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭alanbyrne1982


    Did anyone do their interview today? I'm mine next week just trying to get a gauge on what was asked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Poolbabe


    Yep so thats the section that you will have to wait until there 9 months to get blended. It's a crazy section but fun!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Poolbabe


    What day is your interview next week? Mine is Friday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Thanks. I’d appreciate so more information. So in illness benefit you’ve to wait 9 months for blended? Crazy in what way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    PAS told me I’d get blended when I was allocated but then DSP HR told me it’s 9 months before I’ll be considered for blended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Poolbabe


    Busy but fun. Have they told you what section you're going into? Or just illness benefit. It's hardworking. But rewarding all the same. The only way you deal with the public is over the phone or email. Not in person. Amd áras mhic Dhiarmada is the only building dsp own.Plus it can get very cold in the winter and very hot in the summer in the office. When you eventually get blended you can do up to 3 days at home and 2 in the office. Currently flexi is only available in the office. If you need any more information please ask



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Missy95


    Thanks so much for this very helpful information. I appreciate it. Illness benefit maintenance. Good to know they don’t allow flexi build up for days at home. That’s a pity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Poolbabe


    That's floor 2 the high wing. The maintenance section deal with claims once they are allowed. Its the biggest section in the office



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