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New Import Duty/VAT Thread. Read Post #1 for Rules Updated 14/11/2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭tphase


    so it cost you €86 in shipping and insurance?



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    First post in the thread gives you most, if not all information



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,216 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    have you checked out EU sites like thomann.de ?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 2021rocks


    Thanks. Have checked Thomann but not what I'm looking for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 2021rocks


    Thanks. I read that but I see something there that I don't see on the Citizens Information.

    "If the item you are buying is sourced within the EU, then you do not pay duty or VAT, as it will already have been paid."


    If I understand this correctly then if I buy the instrument from the UK but it's made and sourced in EU, I should not have to pay VAT @23% on my purchase. Is that right?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    No, if you are buying from the UK you have sourced the item from the UK and it will be subject to VAT and any applicable duties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,753 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭tphase


    If the €21 charge you paid is VAT @23%, then the total value of your goods is €91 ie purchase price + shipping + insurance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 alanwalker


    Hi All,

    Just back from a fishing trip in Mexico and really enjoyed using Black Hole fishing rods that the lodge had on the tackle hire package.

    In short I am looking to buy a pair of Black Hole spinning and jigging rods from either the US or Japan as I am unable to find any in Europe.

    My only problem is that I cannot make sense of the import taxes and duties rules on the Irish Gov website no matter how many times I read it. I understand the €150 limit but when it goes into the example breakdowns I cannot make sense of it. I

    I have tried several different tax calculator websites and I have been told different rates of fees but also been told by a few people that there was no import charges from Japan when they bought stuff like clothes and sports equipment well over the €150 limit.

    Could someone with experience of importing from these countries let me know your experiences and what it cost. 

    Just as a guide the rod from Japan is €317 and the rod from US is $508 in total and both have free international shipping as they are over the minimum spend.

    Thank you for your time and help, I really appreciate you helping me with your knowledge about this as I have never done so before.



  • Posts: 4,214 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anything I have purchased from the US or Japan in the last 2 years has been hit for VAT

    In the past, it was more random - most packages got through unscathed.

    TBH, your biggest worry is not the VAT. I have had also had packages from both countries rejected by An Post due to "failed electronic customs clearance". There's plenty posts about that here. Any of my recent purchases from Japan have all been delivered by Fedex rather than international airmail. The downside is paying a handling charge in addition to the VAT. The upside is that the package doesn't get rejected by An Post.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭michael jay


    I got a birthday card and cash from an aunt, they charged vat on it as she registered the post, is that not a step to far?



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Lower limit was removed some time ago now, so in the eyes of Revenue, no. https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058190416/vat-exemption-on-items-under-22-from-outside-eu-disappearing-on-1-july-2021#latest

    Revolut is one of the best ways to avoid this. Cash should never be sent be post anyway,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭dam099


    Did they charge VAT on the cash or just the postage element? Cash is neither a good or service so not sure how they could charge VAT on it.



  • Posts: 4,214 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Marking the package as "gift" with a total value not exceeding 45 euro still works for items coming from UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Im hoping to make a purchase from China and ordered a small sample which arrived few days ago. The value of it was $2.60, but shipping etc brought total purchase price to $35 which was fine. However UPS then imposed charges of VAT €25.19 and a Disbursement charge of €9.41. I paid up to receive the sample and then immediately contacted UPS who couldnt or wont tell me why charges were applied. Eventually they said they would refund me but this will take 4 to 6 weeks. Anyway my problem is the purchase i want to make now will cost approx €1,000 incl shipping. I know VAT at 23% will be applied and a tariff at 3%, thats fine, but i have no idea if they will lump the previosuly mentioned type of charges (% wise) on me again? I can't afford to be waiting weeks for a refund if they do.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Read this thread which will explain customs clearance charges VAT etc. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a refund as they are charging as they should. I certainly wouldn’t be spending that kind of money until you understand the process.


    i will move this thread over there tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    I had actually read that thread which is why i posted, i was hoping someone might explain how they could charge VAT of €25 on delivery that cost €35, its approx 70%. I have looked up the Taric codes etc and have no issue with the duty or VAT if its charged at 23%. Apologies if im posting in wrong place, i was kind of hoping someone might point out something glaringly obvious that im missing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Without a breakdown of the 25 euro it is hard to say. Did they give you an invoice for the charge?



  • Posts: 4,214 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    UPS handling charge is c. 18.50 - are you sure that’s not making up the bulk of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Wouldnt give me an invoice but this is the breakdown i eventually got of them

    VAT: €25.19

    DISBURSEMENT FEE: €9.41

    TOTAL: €34.60”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,922 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Did it not mention the value of the that they used to calculate the VAT?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭tphase


    no - that's their charge for doing the customs clearance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    The what? Sorry not sure what you mean, the value of the package? No



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,264 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    What are the average delays in Customs? Days? Item from Amazon, shipped from UK with UPS. Is it normal for Amazon to use UPS to clear customs (value ~eur300) and then a UPS handling fee?



  • Posts: 4,214 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    For Amazon the VAT is payable at point of sale.

    Unless you're ordering from a third party - then it's a whole different ball game which may have an unhappy ending.

    UPS handling fee is 18.50

    On 9 June, I paid customs to An Post for an item from UK (NOT Amazon but a private seller)

    Wasn't delivered until 21 June. But normally it's usually only a 2 or 3 day wait.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,264 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    In this case Amazon is the seller, shipped from UK, charged the ex-VAT price, but they've taken an 'import fees deposit' of around eur70 (which should cover 23% vat). I did not realise they used UPS for this as they have their own inhouse courier



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    Their in house courier is only for the Dublin area, anywhere else and it will either be delivered by An Post or UPS, DHL is used from the DE site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭MrCostington


    Hi, I guess this has been asked before but I'm not reading 80 pages!

    This is my first time ordering outside the EU in many years so forget the process.

    Some car parts are on the way from the UK by Parcel Monkey / DPD, value £80/€93 inc shipping. So, I'm due to pay VAT plus whatever handling fee DPD charge, yes?

    My main question is how do I pay this. Will I get a link to pay online, or do I pay the driver?

    Thanks!

    PS private seller if that makes any difference.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭VG31


    DPD don't handle packages where the import charges haven't already been paid by the sender. If it's coming with DPD you won't have to pay anything.



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