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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭Panrich


    The wall. He built a wall. It was a great idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Giving Russia part of what they want just means they are arm and invade again in 6 months time. That is all that means. They will then immediately demand peace again with the expectation that they get more land to appease them and then you see were that is going. This only ends when Russia has either been defeated or conquered every smaller non Nato country nearby.

    There is a reason Finland suddenly jumped into Nato because they were well aware that Russia finishes off the Ukraine they will look for the next vulnerable victim and being part of Nato is part of that.


    You have a great headcannon of what Trump would do. None of which is borne out of any evidence of how he was pretty well manhandled by Putin in any meeting they had.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,501 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Sadly, the person you're responding to is banned from the Russia thread because of his nonsense. So he's shown up here, full on Trumplodyte spew.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Setting aside things like policy etc for a second , I'm genuinely intrigued by this one in relation to Trump.

    "he does have some effective leadership qualities."

    What examples are there of him showing actual leadership?

    Everything out there about him from his time in business to his time in public office says that he's an appalling person to work for.

    He's short tempered, capricious, incapable of accepting any criticism, demanding absolute fawning loyalty over competence in his staff whilst burning through employees at a staggering rate - All of whom leave on bad terms by the way.

    There's also his absolutely unshakable belief that he is always the smartest person in the room - The ability to recognise your limitations and to be able to step aside and allow the experts to take the lead is a sign of genuine leadership, in fact it's one of the key ones.

    Even if you were to be aligned with his policies in general (which I absolutely am not), the man is a thundering Arsehole and would be awful to work for.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Stephanie Grisham, cough one time press secretary cough gave an interview where she mentioned a particular intern that TFG was drooling over and how she had to ensure they were never in a room together alone.

    Yep, a great boss, but we know what the sex pest thinks of women, especially those that stand up to him - nasty, crazy, bleeding from her whatever...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Not only does he think he's the smartest person in the room, he thinks hiring people smarter than himself is a mistake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    What has Biden done that has made the world less safe?

    Trump threatened to destroy NK, and pulled out of the Iran deal that had curtailed Iran's move towards a nuclear weapon.

    It is funny that many Trump supporters who never tire of wailing about the invasion of migrants from Mexico are more than happy to allow Putin to invade another country and deem it acceptable. Does sovereignty only exist for the US?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Wasn't addressing you. But he definitely did not build the wall as he said he would



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,501 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Presidents don't tend to come up with all their own policies themselves anyway.

    He was overwhelmingly terrible, but not every single thing he did was awful. I don't think there is any problem stating that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Trump is like a 3 year old off his head on sugar running amok having tantrums.

    Completely uncontrollable, devoid of any empathy, diplomacy, kindness. Psychopath.. and we have folks on looking for positives. He has none. The chap is a maniac!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,773 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    In fact, we all heard about the phone call where trump begged (like a dog?) The Mexican president not to bring that up publicly...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Of course. Trump already bent over to Putin in Helsinki so there's no reason whatsoever to expect him to do anything else. It's pretty obvious that he admires the likes of Putin, Kim and Xi for their authoritarian approach. Him saying that he'd have the issue solved within 24 hours is so laughable, it's hard to even know where to start with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,773 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Authoritarian means not only doing what you want to do, pillage the public for money, but also not have to worry about pesky elections!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    What Trump admires about them is their ability to do whatever they want without legal or media oversight.

    One of the biggest shocks for him was the discovery that the President isn't King and needs approval and sign-off on decisions etc.

    Given that his "business experience" was entirely from running his own private firm where he was never answerable to a board or shareholders etc. and could do what he wanted whenever he wanted , that experience was utterly useless to him in terms of transferable skills to being President.

    Being President is all about negotiation, consensus and compromise - Skills that Trump is utterly devoid of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,200 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Everywhere is a shitheap it seems according to you.

    UK, US, Russia.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,501 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Prove it.

    Curious that you think that everywhere means just three countries.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,773 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    What good policies did Trump have? Are they in the room with us right now? Did he have any policies at all other than to enrich himself at the expense of everyone and everything else?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Lower ratings than Bidens town hall

    which nobody watched either lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,773 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    just on the trial.


    All Trump had to do was turn up. He didn't need to take the stand. No one who knows a jot about cases would blame him for not taking the stand.

    All he would have had to do was sit there and look stern. Show some respect to the court and to the plaintiff by attending.

    In his deposition, all he had to do was repeat that it was locker room talk.

    All he had to do was put on his glasses so as not to mistake his second wife for the plaintiff.

    All of those things would have been easy to do and if he had of, I suspect he would have had a considerably better chance of fighting the case.

    But of course, he didn't.

    Yet somehow, it's all someone else's fault.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Trump has some ideas, but I have yet to see any actual policies. And he seems incapable of thinking through an idea, or being able to see that there is more than one way to achieve the goal.

    Take the wall for example. That was his idea. Everyone told him it was unviable and effectively useless. But that was his idea. Immigration reform never got considered as his idea was to build a wall. The idea is now the goal rather than a policy.

    And that is why ultimately he failed. because the idea was all that interested him.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,501 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This has always been the problem.

    Honestly, when covid hit, I thought that was his second term in the bag. All he had to to was listen to Dr. Fauci and keep the nation's spirits up. His showman persona is the one thing he can do half well. Instead, he destroyed the economy and got hundreds of thousands of Americans killed.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    He started covid quite well (once he got past the incredibly stupid talking about the number being at 15 and how it would go down) he said mostly the right stuff and listened to the experts, he got the very American named operation warp speed through, then he sort of lost interest when he realised it wasn’t about him, then later he went off the wall with and it became just political.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Yeah, the economy could be fobbed off as 'see, the market is high!' when there were structural problems. Covid was his big opportunity, and he completely blew it, even after 'operation warp speed' was started by his administration and was a huge success, a highly effective vaccine in record time (any comments on the vaccine's effectiveness can be discussed elsewhere.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,210 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    He started off covid terribly. Lying about it, playing it down, making political points about Democrat cities and Chinese virus. He called out any governors that shut their state down as only out to get him. He made what was a health issue, and one the US is well capable of dealing with, a political football. He then played down the lockdowns and screamed that they should be lifted by easter.

    As the disaster got worse, he got more and more angry about it and made it all about him. He showed zero leadership and xero empathy for anyone who suffered from it.

    He response will be studied for many years in how not be a leader in a time of crisis.

    Many other world leaders actually achieved some positive outcome from the crisis. People were naturally upset about the impact, but the majority seemed to at least view it as the leaders doing their best in very difficult and unprecedented circumstances. Not Trump. Almost uniquely, Covid was the point that people saw him for what he was. Completely out of his depth and a person incapable of being a leader.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Show some respect to the court and to the plaintiff by attending.

    That was probably the dealbreaker.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,773 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Thinking about it further, the fact that the jury needed to remain anonymous probably gave them a hint as to his character.

    Something normally reserved for Mafia bosses...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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