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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭HBC08



    I was one of the people who forked out for a tile and would like a bit more of an explanation from Touhy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Totally. They must have made a right mess of doing the pitch if it is tearing up..... Kilmaine are doing a big project to extend the GAA/Community grounds and could easly do with that cash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,073 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Good bless your optimism. I would be very surprised if the contractor is footing any cost.

    If my reading of the article is correct, the previous work was mainly to do with the surface... And they've now discovered a drainage issue.

    The quotes from Touhy aren't incouraging.

    "We have agreed a programme of work with Colman Warde and we’re getting costings of that at the moment for the main pitch,” explained the chairman.

    “It will cost a considerable amount of money."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭KerryM9


    Are the fixture details for the round robin games being announced tomorrow?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭muddle84


    Only if the fault of the issue is actually with the contractor, then it all depends on if the effort was put into the actual contract with the contractor in the first place!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Yeah, if the problem wasn't within scope of the previous work, then the contractor couldn't be on the hook.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    This article from 2021 says that drainage works were in scope for the project.

    Surely it's up to the contractor to make sure any drainage work is up to standard?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    This cannot be allowed to slide into the abyss otherwise all the clubs around the county will end up footing the bill.

    This lies solely at the contractors door, and a independent public inquiry needs to happen as to where and how the money was spent.

    300k is an eye watering amount of money given the separate stadium debt that still looms over the county.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭crusd


    Maybe we need to cut Maurice Sheridan a bit of slack?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭spakman


    Why? We were hammered, and played shite football.

    It's not like we were even close to sligo or tried to play a progressive style of football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭crusd


    In successive weeks Sligo have beaten Roscommon, Mayo, Galway and Kerry, with injuries and illness impacting their team today. Kerry also were looking pretty aimless today, as a result of Sligo play. Sligo have an excellent side.

    Now I still believe Deane should be given the U20s next year as they will be his minor sides making up the team, but I do think we need to acknowledge that sometimes we can be not good enough because of the opposition, not always because of our coaches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭crusd


    Because you are focused on winning not developing players. Look at the players who have come through to the senior side in the last few years who have done nothing at underage from a “results” point of view. U17 and 20 is now about identifying and preparing players for senior. And if you look at the last few years it is working even if we aren’t winning all irelands at underage. The likes of Coyne, Callinan, Hession, Carney, Tougy etc ( and Mullen) have come through without any underage “success”. Something is being done right

    Deane gets a lot of stick over us losing the minor final last year. With 16 and 17 year olds, playing the same side for the third time in a year was always going to be tough. I would judge that side and the coaching setup by how many players come through rather than the one off game. They were kids. And it seems losing to Galway by a point last week means Deane is a dead loss all together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭spakman


    I'd have a lot more time for Deane than Sheridan. At least Deane has a gameplan and encourages players to express themselves - Sheridan seems to curtail all that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Sure Deane didn’t bring any of them lads through

    I thought that mayo team last year as individuals was far better than the Galway team We will see how both sets of players get on in time to come

    The last day you’d think he would learn in first half that any man on the Galway centre back was only going to be marking him.


    do u not think with all them good players your on about they should be more competitive at underage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭TsuDhoNimh



    Sadly, as logical as that sounds, contracts are far more convoluted. It will all come down to the fine print in the tender documents and in cases like this can often be the inclusion or omission of a key word here or there as to where the liability sits.

    "Specifications were drawn up and sent to four specialised pitch development companies, and all four submitted tenders."

    In a case where the contractor WAS responsible with shoddy work (huge 'if' there, not for a second suggesting they were) they'd have a very plausible case of denying responsibility and laying blame at the feet of the engineers for the proposed remediation being responsible for the issues or the client for incorrect scoping of the work. Once you break ground on a project there will always be unknowns and unforeseen's where a plausible (if not entirely truthful) case can be put together on why the blame lays elsewhere and they successfully fulfilled their side of a contract.

    It's also very possible the proposed remediation was flawed coming from the Engineers side and the issues lay there. All sorts of ways they'd be insulated and protected too and they're never too keen to take a reputational hit so would fight it tooth and nail.

    It gets messy, fast.

    Not beyond the bounds of possibility to end up burning through more than the cost of the resurfacing on legal fees with no guaranteed outcomes. Having been involved on both engineer and contractor sides of stuff like this if I was part of advising the county board I'd be looking for an amicable agreement with the bodies involved (everyone involved will have a fair idea what went wrong even if it's difficult to prove) to get a resolution and hope to solve it miles away from a court or legal disputes.


    (Said as someone that also helped funding the mess of a surface.

    For the money that has been poured into it my heart sunk every time the last year or so I glanced at the surface from behind one of the large pillars obstructing the view.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Great win for the ladies, first connacht title in a good while



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    Kerry looked sharp today, albeit against a team that knew their fate before the throw-in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭muddle84


    All depends on the specific issue! To give an examples, maybe the drains that the contractor was to connect the new drainage to can't take the amount of water coming from the pitch anymore. Thats not the contractors fault and they wouldn't be liable to fixing that. All about the specifics!



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  • Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭ Damian Mango Urinal


    Date & time for Kerry v Mayo. Saturday 20th May at 3pm. On GAA Go only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,073 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Was very impressed with them despite the opposition. Jack O'Connor really has it sussed when it comes to preparing that team.

    It'll be a very tough test for us down there, I'm getting less hopeful as the days go by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Be-Jaysus


    RTE and the Media happy to champion them as darlings again, and fear monger its competitors, its what our bland media do.

    Mayo fans need to remember the qualities of our own team ,plus they are rested up.

    Need to be aggressive going down there, but apply it in a controlled manner.

    If we silence them in the opening 20 minutes ,the game will go the wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    According to the unreliable Connacht telegraph. Jack Coyne, Conor Loftus and Paddy Durcan are on the treatment table.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,490 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Durkan would be a disasterous loss

    We need his pace like never before .

    Coynes arm was in a sling last weekend …….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,908 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Is this going to bring the GaGo controversy to a head, a game between possibly the two best teams in the country behind a paywall?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,073 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I wouldn't be paying too much attention to RTE tbh. From my own viewing, albeit against a fairly poor team, they looked very sharp.

    We're rested up but we're also on the back of two fairly poor performances imo. It'll be our biggest test of the year and I'm far from optimistic... They'll be gunning for us after the result in Castlebar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Durcan out with another injury would be annoying. He was only just back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    In fairness i doubt they give two **** about the game in Castlebar



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Be-Jaysus



    Amazing what 1 game in Munster & some media bigging does to the mindset of the average Mayo fan.

    Mayo fans are now fearing a backlash from Kerry after a novel victory in Castlebar , despite taking humiliating beatings off them last season, and also in the All-Ireland series in 2019.

    If anything Mayo & its fan-base should be travelling down to Kerry to re-enforce the reality that those days of taking beatings are over, and will now go toe2toe like how it used to be between 2012-2018.

    We are not Clare or Tipperary.



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