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General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    I'd imagine that must have been what it was like seeing Christians being fed to the lions back in Roman times.

    That Arsenal side knew they were done for before the first whistle. I think they knew all along that they'd never get anything from City, but hoped to have enough points on the board for it not to matter. Had they held out against Liverpool and West Ham that could well have been the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭golfball37


    According to BT sport this evening it’s true. Dunno why they’d lie about it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    Have it here that City have spent about 700m more than Arsenal in the last decade.

    In fact just on spending City have spent more than everyone else.

    3 investigations into financial issues as well during that time period it has to be noted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Factor in salaries and the money city hasn’t declared on signings and managerial dig outs and I’d be confident the figure is well north of 500 million.

    Didn’t Mancini get more then his annual manager salary for city, for a few days “consultancy” work in the Middle East, but it wasn’t city technically paying it. oh and all that revenue, can’t even sellout their stadium but Middle East sponcors lining up to throw ridiculous deals their way when nobody was offering anywhere near it, how nice for them. I’m sure there’s alot more you can find if you want to look.

    Seriously Al Capone was a novice on cooking the books in comparison to City. They have a solid template that gangsters could do worse then follow, they are 3 steps ahead of the authorities, we all know they are shady, but no smoking gun can be found for some reason.

    Im Sure it’s just a coincidence that the head of Fifa is a big fan of Middle East lifestyle. Nothing to see here, move along…….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,975 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Grealish should definitely have got a red card……but remember he’s English.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,033 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Their experience of playing to empty stadia got them over the line that season.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,342 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    This is such a stupid, cherry picking argument. In the 2013/14 season City's squad included brilliant players like David Silva, Yaya Toure, Fernandinho, Aguero and Kompany and they won the league that year. Arsenals squad was not close to been as good as City's so not only have City spent more in the last 10 years, they spent more on an already significantly better squad than Arsenal had. Also, its only reported transfer fees. Every man and their dog knows Citys transfers and wages are rife with double dealing and backhanders to keep the real money spent out of the public domain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,876 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    I know it's very much hindsight here but is there any reason why Arsenal's January CB signing Kiwior basically hasn't played any minutes for Arsenal? Especially when there is so much talk of Holding not being good enough. He cost €25m and was playing regularly in Serie A. Is it a case that he has not settled yet?



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    More down to Artetas quirk about not playing two left footed centre backs in the team together I think. Kiwior was bought as back up for Gabriel if he got injured. Not saying it's right or anything cos I think he should have been given a few games (West Ham and Southampton would have been fine for him) to see how he got on. With Tomiyasu injured as well Ben White has to play RB so based on Artetas thinking Holdings his only option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    The sad thing is that City didn't really have to cheat. They could have done things slower and have been less dominant and still enjoyed the ride of winning things while also being able to retain some semblance of moral integrity.

    City were a fantastic club. I remember actually wanting them to be promoted from the lower divisions back in the day. You can't really blame the club for these Arabs who have come in and cheated and hide behind their money and lawyers and basically been allowed to ruin the competition of football in England.

    It's really quite sad. They'll never get any credit for winning anything.

    Simon Harris is monitoring the situation...



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,128 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Jorginho absolutely should have started against Southampton at the very least either to rest Partey or alongside him as Xhaka was out. Loyalty I presume made that decision but not starting a player who has actually been there and done that in terms of winning at the very highest level sitting on the bench until the game is gone did seem a bizarre decision to me. His experience at the very least might have settled the midfield which were carved through like butter all evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,311 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    The performance by Arsenal last night must disappoint their supporters the most.

    Awful display. Did not show up at all

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  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    City's wages alone are over 100m more than Arsenal every single season



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭doc_17


    And that’s probably just the wages that we know about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,328 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The 100m thing was apparently said on BT sport.

    I absolutely love how these amateur jokes of pundits suddenly become encyclopedias when it suits someone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Yeah, I don't think too many of us in here were that surprised to be honest. The result against Liverpool was two points lost but the West Ham and Southampton results were disastrous and bound to have affected the confidence within the team.

    The loss of Saliba was a massive loss and losing Tomi in the same game compounded the disaster as we had to bring Holding in. We've been shipping goals for fun since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Infoseeker1975


    I am a sports fanatic and have both Sky Sports packages for years, cancelled one of them a few months back and if I can find a way to watch the golf [need to record it] then will cancel completely. There is no competition really for the league unless you are hitting 95pts. The next winner besides City will be Newcastle. Whether the 100+ charges for City are decided upon, who knows, money talks across all sports, sure LIV is growing golf:)

    When City report financial figures that put them ahead of everyone bar Real Madrid then it has gone to pot.

    I have no issue with City and Newcastle winning the next 20 PL but I will probably not want to watch it:)



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I never understand this logic, there is more to a league than who finished number one. The other 19 teams are hardly irrelevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    According to this City come 10th in the “net spend league” over the last 5 years, well behind Arsenal who are 3rd!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Garzorico


    Ok, I’ll bite. The only cheating that goes on is on the field. People get upset with other teams winning because their team aren’t winning and that’s perfectly understandable but please don’t try to dress your jealousy up as concern for the greater good. Jealousy is all it is, plain and simple.

    City are a joy to behold - football is all about entertainment and making shedloads of cash and you shouldn’t loose sight of that fact. You aren’t going to tell me that City embarrassing Arsenal last night and (hopefully) beating them to the title wasn’t enjoyed by every Spurs fan in the world - give or take. It was great entertainment altogether. City have 11 players on the pitch and a coaching ticket and I am pretty sure there are 11 players and coaching ticket out there capable of competing with them, it’s just City have done a far better job than everyone else in the EPL at finding the players/coaches. Money spent does not = success and thats a fact.

    Well done City, it’s a pity Arsenal didn’t turn up last night, another chapter in ‘The Bottling’.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,036 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I suspect there'll be alot of this in the coming years from both City and Newcastle to talk away something that is quite obviously rotten.

    You'd swear charges weren't outstanding right at this second the way you go on here trying to shift focus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,755 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Frank Lampard is the biggest winner from last night.

    Another comically awful exhibition of management goes under the radar.

    Will he even manage a single point before year end?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭BillyHasMates


    Each to their own. You mentioned City being a joy to watch, I find games in which they are involved in incredibly boring. They obviously play a brand of football that is top class and they can dominate teams like no other. But that's precisely what makes games involving them boring for me. The excitement is in the contest for me, but it has to be a contest to be exciting, that a reasonable expectation exists that either team can score. I certainly didn't get that feeling when I did watch games involving City. Too dominate and in 90% plus of their games the feeling of a contest doesn't exist.

    I don't think it's jealousy either, lots of sports fans like me hate to watch a sport where one team or club is too dominant over the rest of the competition. It was the reason Liverpool were hated in the 80's and Utd hated in the 90's and 00's. There is added incentive when it comes to City in that fans of other clubs have very reasonable grounds to be suspicious about their financial dealings which is obviously helping to keep them in a dominant position.

    Last nights game was not entertaining at all. Billed as a title decider but wasn't even a contest and many people would have predicted that before the game started. Entertaining if you are a City fan I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,199 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    The whole point of entering a competition is to try and win the thing, it is stockholm syndrome to pretend anything else. If you are not building towards a challenge then you are utterly irrelevant.

    So when one participant is blatantly cheating then it does indeed make all the other competitors irrelevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,035 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Man City V Leeds will be the first non pandemic top flight game to be live on TV with a Saturday 3pm kick-off because of the Kings Coronation being on and Man City playing on the Tuesday night the game can not be on the Sunday.

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Garzorico


    People get hung up on the finances side of things and ‘charges’ outstanding. It’s not a business competition. The money being splashed about is only levelling the playing field as far as I am concerned. The only ones complaining are the old school big teams coz thier slice of the pie is getting smaller. I recall the days when Liverpool/Arsenal/Utd etc were the haves n the rest were the have nots and I love the fact that they are the (sort of) have nots at present. Warms me cockles as I know it p*sses their fans off no end and drives them to shift focus from thier poor football teams/managers/performances/bottle jobs to ‘finances’ and ‘charges’ of/against the successful teams.



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  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "Well Done City"- Manchester City fans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,189 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    It's gone a bit beyond levelling the playing field when no one can compete with them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,189 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Well most of the teams are just there to stay in the league which has substantial financial gains. Money is inconsequential to city though, they exist to win the league at all costs.



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